Haltech E11v2 Vs Power Fc

[JonTurpening]

Just wanted to opinions on both and which one is a better system. The Haltech E11V2 has the plug and play harness. One of these will be gong on my rb25det.

[NYTSKY]

Just wanted to opinions on both and which one is a better system. The Haltech E11V2 has the plug and play harness. One of these will be gong on my rb25det.

The Haltech is better but i have no complaints about my PFC.

[Rhinorebel]

I have the Haltech and it is brilliant. More of everything the PFC has but no hand controller. Which isn't a bad thing as some of the people I know with a hand controller change their tune and damage their car.

[JonTurpening]

Can you run the haltech e11v2 without a MAF on the rb25det? What I mean is can you run it with a MAP and do away with the MAF? Speed density.

[charlie25T]

all haltech e11v2 are being recalled

honestly there shit................. they have crap cold start

haltech is recommending every one to use a ems now

[paulr33]

I have the Haltech and it is brilliant. More of everything the PFC has but no hand controller. Which isn't a bad thing as some of the people I know with a hand controller change their tune and damage their car.

that sounds like user stupidity rather than a bad product to me

if you use the hand controller correctly its great

[ArBe20]

Agreed^^ I have read great reviews about them.

[den001]

buy autronic, its a shitload better then both the ecu's and for about 500 bucks more on top of the haltech

[Risking]

all haltech e11v2 are being recalled

honestly there shit................. they have crap cold start

haltech is recommending every one to use a ems now

Love to know who the hell told you that information!

There was a limited run of E8's that were recalled a while back. As far as I was aware they were all rectified though

They have crap cold start if its tuned by a monkey with no idea how to use it properly

Ive gone from the FC to an E11v2 due to a large cam upgrade.

The E11v2 has the abillity (so does the SM4 etc etc) to use the TPS as the primary load source and the MAP as a corection. Making the tune alot nicer than the power FC when they are tunned properly.

My RB26 is running perfectly with the E11v2 starts perfectly any time anywhere, it had been sitting for a week and fired up first hit this morning.

Its really personal choice but the FC becomes limited when you start tunning with things that are not typical bolt on mods.

I agree the autronic is good but the after sales support is next to non existant, atleast with the haltech they are easy to get ahold of and very helpful should have have difficulties.

Edited February 9, 2008 by Risking

[GeeTR]

all haltech e11v2 are being recalled

honestly there shit................. they have crap cold start

haltech is recommending every one to use a ems now

Riiiiight, Haltech are pointing ppl towards a competitors product, due to all of the E11v2 being "shit"

[charlie25T]

right...................

I presume u guys have haltecs

Mate there all getting recalled

[paulr33]

with the haltech and its in map sensor style what happens when you hit max boost

does load on the 3d map change ?

[STATUS]

right...................

I presume u guys have haltecs

Mate there all getting recalled

even if that is true..... WTF would posses someone to use EMS?? id rather stick a stromberg on it

[discopotato03]

If you have the Haltech adapter harness it sounds like your mind is made up .

When looking for an engine control box you have to ask yourself what you want your engine to achieve .

I believe that 90% of people who modify road registered cars want exactly that - a better road car .

Many people go down the road of stand alone computers and feel all warm and gluey about the 101 extras that they can do ie NOS/ALS etc etc but how many people are seriously going to use those features - on a road registered street car ?

I've used early Haltechs and an Autronic SMC , both were used on street cars and both used manifold pressure load sensing .

For me personally I will never again contemplate using anything but Mass Air Flow load sensing system if there is any choice .

I can't understand why anyone would because it solves so many problems and makes tuning far far easier .

I'd say early in the peace people had a phobia about MAF sensors restricting inlet air flow but with a Power FC that's really not the case . Whilever you can use VH44 sensors in single apps and two in double apps it very hard to argue that they are going to restrict airflow - on a street car .

Now in long period camed RB26 (please say you kept the multi throttle inlet system) its dancing with the devil to marry TPS outputs with MAP outputs - what a nightmare trying to isolate where one systems outputs goes down the toilet and the other surfaces ...

With the multi throttling I reckon the MAF's wouldn't see the pressure fluctuations because the throttle plates generally dampen them so with a steady flow and signal output tuning should proceed as per normal .

I don't think the hand controller bit is a valid comment because to tune any of them properly you really need a PC interface , with a PFC its often via a Datalogit kit and software .

Anyhow my 2C spent and your call , cheers A .

[r33cruiser]

hhmmm ok. considering the jet200 450 hp SR20 uses either a haltech e8 or e11 (forgot), i think it has done REALLY WELL.

also a mate runs a e11 in his 400hp starion. had no complaints.

dont know how they can be bad.

[datt0man]

there not bad at all. I have E11v2 in my gtr & it runs a treat, cold start & everything. I get 400 ks to a tank too on town driving with 340 odd hp I think thats pretty good.

[TommO]

I like the PFC handset, as being able to watch for knock is a good thing (yes in a perfect world you shouldn't have to worry) and the fact that it's easy to wind timing out of it if you're only able to purchase 95 octane fuel when in remote locations.

[JonTurpening]

I didn't mean to get anything started. I just wanted to know the ups and downs of both systems. I talked to my local Haltech dealer/tuner; they said they were not aware of any recall on the e11v2.

I would like to get a power fc but I will not pay $1200 US or more for a used unit! Then you have to get the software and it's about $250US. So I'm looking at the least $1450US for a used Power FC. That to me is just too much. I can get a NEW E11v2 with the software and the plug and play harness for around the same price.

Now I know people are saying that you can get a new Power FC at different times as Apexi is releasing them a few at a time. I have contacted EVERY Apexi dealer that I can find in the states and they ALL tell me the same thing, they "might" get some in but they're not sure when. I "might" get one if I want to pay for it now and be put on a list and wait 4-6 months. That's nuts!

So I guess my decision has been made for me buy Apexi! From what I understand they are having some issue with their manufacture and are trying to find a different one. I can't believe a company as big as Apexi would be having such an issue with this and with their finances.

[GeeTR]

right...................

I presume u guys have haltecs

Mate there all getting recalled

Unless your talking about the E11v1 which I heard were recalled due to rev limit fuel cutting, respectively have no idea what your talking about

Hell yes, suck through SU setup ftw

TommO - I wouldnt buy a dog from the pound because its the one that wont shit on my carpet; i can train any dog. You can purchase aftermarket knock setups, and i swear i heard somwhere that Autronic or somone is adding the feature. Most of the US's AM ECU's have it built in now.

JonTurpening - Thats what happens when the world runs outa oil and Japans mass development of turbo performance cars mid/late 90's almost halts I blame your SUV's

Edited February 9, 2008 by GeeTR

[JonTurpening]

JonTurpening - Thats what happens when the world runs outa oil and Japans mass development of turbo performance cars mid/late 90's almost halts I blame your SUV's

LOL! Agree 100% I see it every day. This big gas guzzling monster with ONE person in it! And you know by the looks of him, well more so HER, that they NEVER take the monster 4wd off road or pull anything with it! These same dim witted people blame the "goverment" for gas prices! LOL!!

I pass by the local Ford and Chevy dealers every day and the SUV's and trucks out number the cars at least 10 to 1!

Alright I'm off my soap box now! LOL!!

Edited February 9, 2008 by JonTurpening