PHA71L Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 can you change them while the motor is still in the car? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210361-big-ends-r32-rb26dett/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
djr81 Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 You are kidding, right? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210361-big-ends-r32-rb26dett/#findComment-3720243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHA71L Posted March 14, 2008 Author Share Posted March 14, 2008 You are kidding, right? so its a pull motor out take head of job? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210361-big-ends-r32-rb26dett/#findComment-3720287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbarry88 Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 yup engine out Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210361-big-ends-r32-rb26dett/#findComment-3720360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blind_elk Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 Big ends? or big end bearings? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210361-big-ends-r32-rb26dett/#findComment-3720431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiper the Fox Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 so its a pull motor out take head of job? no need to remove the head to do big ends...but yes engine out. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210361-big-ends-r32-rb26dett/#findComment-3720434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHA71L Posted March 14, 2008 Author Share Posted March 14, 2008 yes the big end bearings... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210361-big-ends-r32-rb26dett/#findComment-3720624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Sawyer_ Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 You are kidding, right? Yes It actually can be done but i would reccomend it. the heart ake n time wont be worth it. The used to do it allot to holdens with 202's etc. I know Its a little different now but it can be done Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210361-big-ends-r32-rb26dett/#findComment-3720675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLED Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 Big ends?or big end bearings? Huh??? Same thing....you gotta remove the B/E cap to remove the B/E brg. What sort of other B/E is there? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210361-big-ends-r32-rb26dett/#findComment-3720679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 well it might be actually possible, would need subframe off, sump off, crank out, balancer off, timing gear off, timing belt off, oil pump off, gearbox off, clutch off and flywheel off. but if you did all that you could probably get to all of the bearings. seriously though, if you need new big end bearings, rebuild the motor. the main bearings are probably in trouble, there is most likely some crap floating around somewhere, might as well do a hone and new rings while you are in there. pull it apart, clean and check it all, put it back together. so much damn work just to get the sump off Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210361-big-ends-r32-rb26dett/#findComment-3721014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLED Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 You wouldn't have to remove your crank to change B/E brgs. I've changed them on various other motors in the past by removing the B/E caps & spark plugs, pushing each piston up an inch and being real careful not to nick the journals with the thread on the B/E bolts, if you do, crank has to come out (might have to come out anyway for a grind or at least a linish if its got grooves). You'll have to do a r & r on each cyl that's on the down stroke then turn crank to do others.....pretty messy this way but good oportunity to replace with a decent baffled sump. As far as mains are concerned, they rarely fail unless there's crap in the galleries but usually evident by pitting or scratches on the B/E shells. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210361-big-ends-r32-rb26dett/#findComment-3721173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MYRB30 Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 You CANNOT get the sump off with the gear box attached, there are two bolts behind the flywheel. This has been covered before, It is not practical to take the box out, to remove the sump. Just pull the engine, there is no way around it. And yes, I have done it. Sorry to be a spoil sport Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210361-big-ends-r32-rb26dett/#findComment-3721245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHA71L Posted March 14, 2008 Author Share Posted March 14, 2008 ok thats fine.... just wanted to find out first as i have never worked on a rb26 befor motor has only been rebuilt not long ago.... it got low on oil and now has the knock at around 3 4000 ill get some one to do all the work and check every thing might be time for the bigger turbos at the same time Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210361-big-ends-r32-rb26dett/#findComment-3721605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLED Posted March 15, 2008 Share Posted March 15, 2008 You wouldn't have to remove your crank to change B/E brgs. I've changed them on various other motors in the past You CANNOT get the sump off with the gear box attached, there are two bolts behind the flywheel. This has been covered before, It is not practical to take the box out, to remove the sump. Just pull the engine, there is no way around it. And yes, I have done it.Sorry to be a spoil sport Fair enough, its good info to know. As I stated above, I have removed sumps on various other motors whilst still in the car but not on an RB, thanks. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210361-big-ends-r32-rb26dett/#findComment-3721808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHA71L Posted March 15, 2008 Author Share Posted March 15, 2008 yes so have i thats why i asked.....it has cp pistions and a baffled sump ect all ready and light weight rods im not sure what type of bearings were used tho any ideas on how to tell? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210361-big-ends-r32-rb26dett/#findComment-3721894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLED Posted March 15, 2008 Share Posted March 15, 2008 yes so have i thats why i asked.....it has cp pistions and a baffled sump ect all ready and light weight rods im not sure what type of bearings were used tho any ideas on how to tell? Check numbers on the back of the shell, may give a clue, or if your not using them again light scrape on inside will tell you if they're copper leads or alu tins. Always a good idea to use a copper lead or similar in an RB though. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210361-big-ends-r32-rb26dett/#findComment-3722443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blind_elk Posted March 15, 2008 Share Posted March 15, 2008 Huh??? Same thing....you gotta remove the B/E cap to remove the B/E brg. What sort of other B/E is there?Where do you think the big end bearing sits, and what does it protect? The Big End (it's the end of the conrod that connects to the crankshaft).If you are referring to the big end bearing, then call it that. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210361-big-ends-r32-rb26dett/#findComment-3722949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLED Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 Where do you think the big end bearing sits, and what does it protect? The Big End (it's the end of the conrod that connects to the crankshaft).If you are referring to the big end bearing, then call it that. Been in the engine reconditioning game for 20 years mate so I appreciate you teaching me something that I learnt when I was still in nappies. When engine reconditioners say they're changing their B/E's, they're always referring to shells. Otherwise they refer to the rods specifically. They never talk about changing B/E whilst referring to rods. Sounds like you like to make a play on peoples words and argue pointless issues otherwise you wouldn't have asked such an obvious question. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210361-big-ends-r32-rb26dett/#findComment-3723249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blind_elk Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 Been in the engine reconditioning game for 20 years mate so I appreciate you teaching me something that I learnt when I was still in nappies.When engine reconditioners say they're changing their B/E's, they're always referring to shells. Otherwise they refer to the rods specifically. They never talk about changing B/E whilst referring to rods. Sounds like you like to make a play on peoples words and argue pointless issues otherwise you wouldn't have asked such an obvious question. Sorry, didn't realise you had so much experience in these matters.Yes, I can be a pedantic old bastard sometimes. It's just that there are quite a few younger members who don't always understand the technicalities. And the only stupid question is the one you don't ask. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210361-big-ends-r32-rb26dett/#findComment-3723756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLED Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 Sorry, didn't realise you had so much experience in these matters.Yes, I can be a pedantic old bastard sometimes. It's just that there are quite a few younger members who don't always understand the technicalities. And the only stupid question is the one you don't ask. Yeah no probs bud, I know what you mean & I agree, its like banging your head on the wall sometimes. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210361-big-ends-r32-rb26dett/#findComment-3723831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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