Adz Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 Intresting you say that as you will see there are cones on the track representing turn in, apex and exit. Those cones were layed out by John Bowe and I walked the track with him as he did it. We discussed the various lines and the pros and cons of diffrent approaches to the track. I tried to do what he said but who knows what I was doing in the heat of the moment. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210939-superlap-timeattack-is-ago/page/38/#findComment-3830643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAGR33 Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 Intresting you say that as you will see there are cones on the track representing turn in, apex and exit. Those cones were layed out by John Bowe and I walked the track with him as he did it. We discussed the various lines and the pros and cons of diffrent approaches to the track. I tried to do what he said but who knows what I was doing in the heat of the moment. Interesting, watching your video seemed like exactly how I drove the circuit for the first time, and resulted in a 1:36.8 (first time there). But by changing my approach to turn 3 (fast left hand sweeper leading into chicane), and a few other corners my time dropped down to 1:33.4 (second time there). I've only been to Winton twice, so its probably a good idea not to take advice from me... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210939-superlap-timeattack-is-ago/page/38/#findComment-3830722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil_weevil Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 Nice vids - sounds horn!!! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210939-superlap-timeattack-is-ago/page/38/#findComment-3830770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 as for power only making you faster even on street tyres - you've never seen lower powered cars further up the results in the wet? I hear what you are saying, but thats not exactly what i said. My point was a well setup car will work nicely on good road tyres, yes the setup could be optimised for the different level of tyre grip. But many less sorted cars like mine hide behind the level of grip the tyres give, and my not so sorted car can still punch pretty good times considering. But tyres hide the vices. So throw a less sorted car on crap tyres and without the grip the better sorted car on teh same tyre will only increase the margin. Yes less powered cars can often do better in the wet. But if you happen to have more power, with great power delivery and response to go with the chassis then others arent going to do a lot of catching just because of slippery conditions. LOL well thats my take on things Wet can help cars with better dynamics but hurt in the power stakes. LOL what happens the the dynamics/chassis are the cream of the crop and they also happen to be top shelf in the grunt department Nice work Adz, my car straight out of the workshop with that suspension did something like a 1:38.1 (?) whilst being held up by the F430 at Dutton. Having only done 2 laps and if not for being held up would have walked into a low 1:37 if not high-mid 1:36. So obviously the suspension doesnt suit your car and power as well as mine. Perhaps we need to find another set to fiddle with to better suit your car if they changes need to be more dramatic. As my car was a lot more neutral, yours seems to want to understeer a lot more then mine. Being too soft? Perhaps my sway bars are larger then yours because if anything i thought they could have been softened up a little more. But then again your power delivery is worlds different to mine so no doubt pushes the whole traction thing to the extreme. LOL, i know you have already been there done that, but i say bin the GT35R and go back to the 3076, then you will be able to take the 2nd gear corners in 3rd and use the midrange to push you out of the corners with a more tractable power delivery. I think thats why my car is so easy to drive because i have just enough corner speed so that the shorter gearing of the R32 diff/gearbox means i can honker out of slow corners in 3rd Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210939-superlap-timeattack-is-ago/page/38/#findComment-3830842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron34 Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 Yowzas Aaron!What time did you run at PI? Dane 1.44.8 I still am hunting for Franks time of 1.43.5 in his streeter R33 GTR Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210939-superlap-timeattack-is-ago/page/38/#findComment-3831779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydneykid Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 Did some testing at Winton yesterday for the first time and got some footage. Still have heaps of work to do on the setup if I want to get anywhere near some of the quick RWD's in open class\Enjoy Always hard to decifer much from a wide angle video, but here's my 20 cents; No enough rear squat, I can't see any weight transfer to the rear. With the slow throttle response that it has, you need weight transfer to soak up the torque hit. Rear spring rate? Rear cradle setting? Similarly at the front it has insufficent weight transfer there as well, so the same questions need asking. Front spring rate? Front anti dive setting? It seems to skip over the track iregularities, not follow the minor changes in track surface. Spring rates, maybe, but my second guess would be too much high frequency bump valving in the shocks? It handles the ripple strips and larger bumps rather badly, to do a decent time around Wintoon it needs to ride the low frequency impacts without disturbing the balance. Have you corner weighted it? It looks like it may handle right hand corners better than left ones. The esses being an interesting comparison. Is that a screamer pipe I hear? It's damn annoying, I hope you are wearing some hearing protection. Cheers Gary Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210939-superlap-timeattack-is-ago/page/38/#findComment-3832208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozman1 Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 44's around the Island is not mucking around. Sounds like we are going to have some mega serious weapons at this event. So has anyone else been doing any testing?? JP, how is the NASA aero testing going? GTR Jason, when will your car be ready for testing? Looks as though I will be putting on a day at Oran GP in early June. It will be during the week with quality driver training on hand to give free tuition. I will keep everybody posted. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210939-superlap-timeattack-is-ago/page/38/#findComment-3832399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOZ22N Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 I am definitely in for that. 44's around the Island is not mucking around. Sounds like we are going to have some mega serious weapons at this event.So has anyone else been doing any testing?? JP, how is the NASA aero testing going? GTR Jason, when will your car be ready for testing? Looks as though I will be putting on a day at Oran GP in early June. It will be during the week with quality driver training on hand to give free tuition. I will keep everybody posted. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210939-superlap-timeattack-is-ago/page/38/#findComment-3832428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
giant Posted April 30, 2008 Author Share Posted April 30, 2008 44's around the Island is not mucking around. Sounds like we are going to have some mega serious weapons at this event.So has anyone else been doing any testing?? JP, how is the NASA aero testing going? GTR Jason, when will your car be ready for testing? Looks as though I will be putting on a day at Oran GP in early June. It will be during the week with quality driver training on hand to give free tuition. I will keep everybody posted. That sounds good i think are a few from Queensland that want to get down if they can Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210939-superlap-timeattack-is-ago/page/38/#findComment-3832914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil_weevil Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 John, certainly keen mate, please keep us updated!! (I enjoyed that last OP day with you and Warren Luff, learnt a shitload!) Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210939-superlap-timeattack-is-ago/page/38/#findComment-3833076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrd-hr30 Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 yeah, I'd be interested as long as its timed. I'm trying to get the Datto back to IPRA specs for the QLD Hillclimb Championships at the end of May, but should be easy enough to whip out the restricor and upload the old tune back into it afterwards Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210939-superlap-timeattack-is-ago/page/38/#findComment-3833100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozman1 Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 Harry, buy a timer There is always a problem when insurance firms see timing at a driver training day. That way we don't have to have specific timed and untimed sessions. And the trainers can be in the cars as often as you like I am pretty sure most of the regulars have there own timers. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210939-superlap-timeattack-is-ago/page/38/#findComment-3833403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHDave Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 yeah, but no one believes you when you say you got a 1:10 and it's not on natsoft.... I'd be interested in the OP day as well boz Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210939-superlap-timeattack-is-ago/page/38/#findComment-3833470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydneykid Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 yeah, but no one believes you when you say you got a 1:10 and it's not on natsoft.... I video the dash display Cheers Gary Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210939-superlap-timeattack-is-ago/page/38/#findComment-3833676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 Honestly if people want to lie about lap times then let them. Nothing is more pathetic then bragging about winning a thrown fight, so if they want to be that fickle then ...whatever floats their sinking boat Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210939-superlap-timeattack-is-ago/page/38/#findComment-3833760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1GTR Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 44's around the Island is not mucking around. Sounds like we are going to have some mega serious weapons at this event.So has anyone else been doing any testing?? JP, how is the NASA aero testing going? GTR Jason, when will your car be ready for testing? Looks as though I will be putting on a day at Oran GP in early June. It will be during the week with quality driver training on hand to give free tuition. I will keep everybody posted. After last sunday's effort im in for that with the real car Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210939-superlap-timeattack-is-ago/page/38/#findComment-3834377 Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1GTR Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 Fast fours are looking after all the media side of things so your best option for that is to email [email protected] and ask him as he will be the one giving them out not us.Cheers -Nathan Im suprised MOTOR or Wheels didnt want to do this one, or even HPI seeing as its an "import" event Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210939-superlap-timeattack-is-ago/page/38/#findComment-3834418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozman1 Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 Not really a MOTOR or WHEELS sort of event. TARMAC would be interested in this though!! I will get onto them Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210939-superlap-timeattack-is-ago/page/38/#findComment-3834731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superlap Australia Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 Im suprised MOTOR or Wheels didnt want to do this one, or even HPI seeing as its an "import" event It is EMG doing it which means HPI, Zoom, Fast Fours, hot4s and depending on how many holdens and fords enter then street commodores and street fords may do a few pages on it in their mags aswell. There will be alot of coverage in alot of different mags and hopefully some form of DVD aswell. -Nathan Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210939-superlap-timeattack-is-ago/page/38/#findComment-3834741 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phunky_monkey Posted May 1, 2008 Share Posted May 1, 2008 Not really a MOTOR or WHEELS sort of event. TARMAC would be interested in this though!! I will get onto them It'd be good if Tarmac covered the event. Picked up my copy on the weekend, top magazine! About time we had something decent back in the market. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/210939-superlap-timeattack-is-ago/page/38/#findComment-3834877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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