Is It True A Blown Turbo Can Also Cause Engine Damage ?

[lilhaulerz]

Hey guys,

My turbo spatt the dummy yesterday , what happen was i was in a merging lane, and a truck wouldnt let me through, so its either get stuck behind the truck or get in front of it. Obviously good things come to those who wait... but with my impatients, i dump it into 2nd @ 60-70km/h. Car boosted and heard a loud backfire pop after i back off.

Now the car makes a weird az sucking sound. Its like your normal turbo spool sound but on a rhythm like a WRX burble. No i havent drop a cyclinder. Only makes the sound on boost and comes from turbo not engine or exhaust.

Im not blowing any smoke and the turbo is still boosting ( 10psi then, have now pulled it back to stock )... I've check the front wheel and got no shaft play side to side, but slightly back to front. The front wheel is perfectly fine with no defects.

So my conclusion is , i've done my Bearings over...

So my question is... Lots of people sed if you keep driving a car with a blown turbo your engine will eventually die and will need a rebuild ( something to do with ceramic dust, but i dont think my rear wheel is gone ) ?

Is that tru ? Even if i drive off-boost ??? Its my only daily round about and with uni/work. i need to get around. So is it ok to drive the car as long as its off boost ???

Any help be GREATFUL guys !!!

P.S: Anyone got a Highflow for sale ????

Edited May 16, 2008 by lilhaulerz

[cheez]

it only damages ur engine if any parts of the turbo drop back into the egine through the exhaust manifold when it blows but as a daily drive stay off boost... drive as lightly as possible and if u have a boost tap, wind it up so no boost is made. thats a safe way to stop doing any damage, but on the other hand this could be the perfect time to get a new turbo?

something ball bearing..

[The Mafia]

that would have to be the worst self diagnosis I have ever seen.

If you're making boost, then your turbo is fine.

If your car sounds like a WRX, then you have engine problems..

[lilhaulerz]

Im looking at getting MTQ to High flow my turbo... Or get a GCG or SLide 2nd hand unit...

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Would looooove a GTRS.. but really funds dont permit... sooo poor man...

[lilhaulerz]

I didnt say it sounds like a WRX ... Read the post properly dude...i sed the sucking sound of the turbo is in a rhythm like a WRX... and its not the engine note or exhaust note, car sounds perfectly fine off boost and wen in neutral reving. Exhaust note is normal even on boost.

Its only when the turbo spools and on boost.. It goes shh shh shh shh shh instead of Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Plus if the turbo is making boost doesnt mean its fine. You can have warned and f**ked bearings and the car still makes boost... also noticebly less power

Edited May 16, 2008 by lilhaulerz

[The Mafia]

maybe it is the turbo then, but have you checked everything else on then engine?

[autoworx]

have you checked for any leaks ? hoses , pipes come off ?

[lilhaulerz]

Well cant pull the engine apart to check inside, but tappets aint ticking, no oil or blow by, idles fine, no knocking or detonation, revs cleanly in neutral all way to red. And wen you drive the car. Engine feels and sounds completely normal off boost, even wen on boost, car feels normal as in operating normally. Just not as must OOMPH and turbo sounds like shit....

Wen i pulled all the cooler piping off, no oil or any bits in it. Exhaust note is normal. Car doesnt blow any smoke whats so ever.

I've did search and ask few mech friends and they sed turbo bearings are gone...

Although i forgot to mention.. prior to this the last month, the spooling sound has been gettin a louder whine/whistling to it. And feel not as fast as it use to be ( could be because im used to the power ) ... but i always thought it was like gasket leak. But check all mani bolts / turbo flange bolts ect... Its not a Exhaust leak sound. Its definately coming from Intake / spooling sound

Edited May 16, 2008 by lilhaulerz

[lilhaulerz]

Yep check all piping when i pulled it apart to check front turbine wheel... not losing vacumn on boost gauge, car would of stall and idle funny if i had cooler pipe blown off...holds boost fine too ( but i try not to try on boost now )

Edited May 16, 2008 by lilhaulerz

[paulR32gtr]

Turbos generally spin at up to 130,000rpm - any bearing issues will show up very quickly in a seized turbo / blown seals pissing oil everywhere.

Almost sounds like something loose in your intake - is there anything loose in the intake side of your intercooler?

Edited May 16, 2008 by paulR32gtr

[lilhaulerz]

nothing lose

[paulR32gtr]

How about loose nuts between the exhaust manifold and the turbo exhaust housing

I have had that on turbo cars where with this being loose, and the gasket flapping around making a pulsing sound...

[lilhaulerz]

definately coming from the intake... Cuz if thats the case, the intake sound wouldnt change if its nutz and bolts... The spooling sound/intake is making the noise. Also already checked all nuts and bolts to. just going to undo the cooler pipe on the hot side.. and check if anything is sitting at the cooler core.

If anything went through the Turbine fins would be super screwed...

Edited May 16, 2008 by lilhaulerz

[GeeTR]

Iv seen turbos with a lot of axial plane movement make a "whipped snipper" sound on boost; like a pulse.

[lilhaulerz]

time for new turbo.. neone hiflow one .. and how much ?

1k enuff ?

[rb26s13]

Well cant pull the engine apart to check inside, but tappets aint ticking, no oil or blow by, idles fine, no knocking or detonation, revs cleanly in neutral all way to red. And wen you drive the car. Engine feels and sounds completely normal off boost, even wen on boost, car feels normal as in operating normally. Just not as must OOMPH and turbo sounds like shit....

Wen i pulled all the cooler piping off, no oil or any bits in it. Exhaust note is normal. Car doesnt blow any smoke whats so ever.

I've did search and ask few mech friends and they sed turbo bearings are gone...

Although i forgot to mention.. prior to this the last month, the spooling sound has been gettin a louder whine/whistling to it. And feel not as fast as it use to be ( could be because im used to the power ) ... but i always thought it was like gasket leak. But check all mani bolts / turbo flange bolts ect... Its not a Exhaust leak sound. Its definately coming from Intake / spooling sound

you need to be the sphincter of the universeslapped!

[rb26s13]

and come on goin by your avatar you should just put the car into the workshop and get them to fix it!

Edited May 16, 2008 by rb26s13

[nizmonut]

sounds like the exhaust turbines lost a few blades.

[lilhaulerz]

Heheh but little do you know my avatar... that money was loan money from bank to buy the car... lolzzz... wish i had that dosh.nt

Yeh i really wish i just be patient and let that truck go.. ... but i guess it would of happen sooner or later.

Car is pulling 201rwkw

Greddy front mount

SAFC2

Full zorst / 3" cat

intake & Cai

Walbro pump

and 10.5psi and spikes to 12-13psi...

I believe the turbo was at its time to go, it is 13years old and i guess the turbo spike doesnt help.

[lilhaulerz]

Whats with the the sphincter of the universe slapp ??? i say something wrong, even on load car revs cleanly to red, just flat power like N/A. ( not driving on boost anymore though )

Everyone has diff ways to diagnoise their car, i just figure if the car revs cleanly to red, even in neutral with no load... it would let me know if i drop a piston or dun a valve spring or something as the car would not rev cleanly.

But i aint going get into a forum argument that leads to no where... it doesnt help or fix my probs.. So you can the sphincter of the universe slapp me as much you like