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Spring Rates Of Standard R32 Gtst Springs And Sk's Whiteline Springs

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Shaun

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Hi,

Im just wondering if any of you know what the spring rates of standard R32 gtst M spec springs are.

Also, does anyone know what the rates of the Whiteline springs in Sydneykids group buy are for the same car?

Im having traction issues, and was wondering if it would be beneficial to replace the rear Whiteline springs with standard springs, so that the car squats a bit more. Gary suggests that rear springs of no more than 3kg/mm are suitable for 'tractionally challenged' rear wheel drive set ups, but i have no idea what the rates are (and SK's inbox is full). Busy man i suspect.

Thanks for any help.

Shaun.

PS: While im here, ill throw this one at those who care.

My car sits about 8mm higher on the passenger side than the divers side front and rear. Its always done this, but i installed the whiteline kit yesterday, and its still doing it. Previously i had whiteline springs on standard shocks and sway bars, but yesterday i installed the bilsteins and bars to go with the springs i already had.

Im just wondering if i should worry about this and even change the height of the drivers side (bring it up one circlip groove), or just leave it alone.

Thanks,

Shaun.

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Trav33

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When you say uneven, is that measuring from the centre of the wheel to the top of the wheel arch? I know mine were slightly different left-to-right, but that was because my guards were rolled and were uneven.

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Hi mate the std spring rates for a R32 Gts are 3kg front and 2kg rear

I beleive the SK groub buy are 3.5kg front and rear can be wrong

anyone confirm this? Your traction problems can be your tyres have

gone off or maybe your wheel alignment settings to much rear neg camber

With the car sitting higher on the passenger side even after the new

suspension set up check to see if the guards are the same measurement

where on mine we found that the front drivers guard was 5mm different

than the other side.Good luck

Shaun Mentor

Shaun

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Thanks mate.

Ill measure from the ground to the guard on either side to see if theyre the same. Probably should have done this before, but the car is mint, so i cant see it being out by that much.

Can anyone confirm these spring rates?

Shaun.

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PS: While im here, ill throw this one at those who care.

My car sits about 8mm higher on the passenger side than the divers side front and rear. Its always done this, but i installed the whiteline kit yesterday, and its still doing it. Previously i had whiteline springs on standard shocks and sway bars, but yesterday i installed the bilsteins and bars to go with the springs i already had.

Im just wondering if i should worry about this and even change the height of the drivers side (bring it up one circlip groove), or just leave it alone.

Its kinda normal, spring manufacturers work to 5% +/- tolerance IIRC,

Which can add up to a reasonable difference, but it can be compensated for.

Call into a suspension shop, they should be able to even it up for you.

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Hi,

Im just wondering if any of you know what the spring rates of standard R32 gtst M spec springs are.

Also, does anyone know what the rates of the Whiteline springs in Sydneykids group buy are for the same car?

Im having traction issues, and was wondering if it would be beneficial to replace the rear Whiteline springs with standard springs, so that the car squats a bit more. Gary suggests that rear springs of no more than 3kg/mm are suitable for 'tractionally challenged' rear wheel drive set ups, but i have no idea what the rates are (and SK's inbox is full). Busy man i suspect.

Thanks for any help.

Shaun.

PS: While im here, ill throw this one at those who care.

My car sits about 8mm higher on the passenger side than the divers side front and rear. Its always done this, but i installed the whiteline kit yesterday, and its still doing it. Previously i had whiteline springs on standard shocks and sway bars, but yesterday i installed the bilsteins and bars to go with the springs i already had.

Im just wondering if i should worry about this and even change the height of the drivers side (bring it up one circlip groove), or just leave it alone.

Thanks,

Shaun.

Hi Shaun, the standard spring rates are around 3kg/mm front and rear and the Whiteline springs are around 20% to 25% higher. Not enough to make a lot of difference compared to the effort required to change them for drag racing, you would be much better off using the Rear Subframe Alignment Kit on the Maximum Traction setting. The other worthwhile trick is adjusting out the negative camber on the rear. We have found around 0.5 degrees positive camber is a good place to start.

It is not unusual for the RHS to be lower than the left, most times the car has just the driver in it and takes a set to the right over time. For height correction, the method I use is to measure the heights on all 4 corners then adjust the lowest of the pairs up the necessary amount. That is usually the RHS rear, move it up one circlip groove. That will lift the RHS rear 8 mm and lower the LHS front around 3 mm. See how that would work against your current measurements.

Cheers

Gary

Shaun Mentor

Shaun

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Hi Shaun, the standard spring rates are around 3kg/mm front and rear and the Whiteline springs are around 20% to 25% higher. Not enough to make a lot of difference compared to the effort required to change them for drag racing, you would be much better off using the Rear Subframe Alignment Kit on the Maximum Traction setting. The other worthwhile trick is adjusting out the negative camber on the rear. We have found around 0.5 degrees positive camber is a good place to start.

It is not unusual for the RHS to be lower than the left, most times the car has just the driver in it and takes a set to the right over time. For height correction, the method I use is to measure the heights on all 4 corners then adjust the lowest of the pairs up the necessary amount. That is usually the RHS rear, move it up one circlip groove. That will lift the RHS rear 8 mm and lower the LHS front around 3 mm. See how that would work against your current measurements.

Cheers

Gary

Thanks for your relpy Gary.

Ill keep the springs in then. My next move was to fix up the rear camber, as you suggest. Ive been told that the skylines do have rear camber adjustment as standard, so does that mean i dont have to purchase a camber kit? Also, do you sell the rear subframe alignment kit through your group buy? What does it include and how much is it?

Ill adjust the heaight in the next few days. I just wasnt sure if it was bad to have the springs under different loads on the car, but i suspect that 8mm wouldnt be significant.

Thanks again,

Shaun.

Shaun Mentor

Shaun

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Thanks for your relpy Gary.

Ill keep the springs in then. My next move was to fix up the rear camber, as you suggest. Ive been told that the skylines do have rear camber adjustment as standard, so does that mean i dont have to purchase a camber kit? Also, do you sell the rear subframe alignment kit through your group buy? What does it include and how much is it?

Ill adjust the heaight in the next few days. I just wasnt sure if it was bad to have the springs under different loads on the car, but i suspect that 8mm wouldnt be significant.

Thanks again,

Shaun.

Found prices for the camber and sub frame alignment kits. Im still wondering what the subframe kit consists of and whether i can fit it myself.

Also, if im aiming for a height of around 335 - 340mm at the rear, will i need a rear camber kit or is there enough adjustment to get between -0.5 and +0.5 in the standard set up. Thats if there is any rear camber adjustment in the standard set up; i dont know yet.

Any help is appreciated; i need to get this set up and no-one around here knows shit about skylines.

Shaun.

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GriMo

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Found prices for the camber and sub frame alignment kits. Im still wondering what the subframe kit consists of and whether i can fit it myself.

Also, if im aiming for a height of around 335 - 340mm at the rear, will i need a rear camber kit or is there enough adjustment to get between -0.5 and +0.5 in the standard set up. Thats if there is any rear camber adjustment in the standard set up; i dont know yet.

Any help is appreciated; i need to get this set up and no-one around here knows shit about skylines.

Shaun.

Hey mate, the alignment kit is easy as to fit. You only need a jack, stands and hand tools. I did mine while changing shocks and swaybars so im not sure exactly how long it would take by itself. But id guess 1.5 hours max to do it yourself.

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