Hks Evc Version 6

[Johnny]

Yo blokes,

Recently i read a thread by forum member URAS which highlighted the benefits of a blitz ebc with gain control over say a manual boost controller. IT basically showed better gain throughout the low/mid revs which was quite surprising.

Im in the market for a new EBC as mine currently is a HKS EVC version 3 and i would like an update. Now i was gonna buy the blitz ebc recommended but since ive come across the new HKS EVC version 6 which utilized a stepper motor instead of solenoids.

Now is this a new thing or do other manufacturers use these? are they better at controlling wastegates?

this is the link from ebay, it seems like a good price for a tough looking module

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi...em=360079097260

what you guys think! oh and its for my R34 GTR; so standard twin turbos with internal gates

-Johnny

[Martin HKS]

Im in the market for a new EBC as mine currently is a HKS EVC version 3 and i would like an update. Now i was gonna buy the blitz ebc recommended but since ive come across the new HKS EVC version 6 which utilized a stepper motor instead of solenoids.

Now is this a new thing or do other manufacturers use these? are they better at controlling wastegates?

what you guys think! oh and its for my R34 GTR; so standard twin turbos with internal gates

-Johnny

HKS have been utilizing the stepper motor for years over the cheaper solenoid version offered by other manufacturers. It is the best form of boost control on the market, that's why HKS use this method. I say go for it as you won't look back. You can even buy software for it to tune via laptop to make you boost control better again. CheersMarty

[R31Nismoid]

Solenoids don't give creep if set-up correctly, its as simple as that. No EBC does really.

Some are just harder to set-up than others depending how familiar you are with them etc etc

I've never seen any evidence to say one style is better than the other, i'd be inclined to say they are both equal in their own rights.

[Johnny]

Thanks for the comments so far. I agree that many high powered turbo cars still use solenoids without a hitch so im still debating but it looks like im steering towards the HKS unit as it has a brilliant black and tough incabin unit.

at 600bux its not cheap but then again, im not either.

I will definitely post up results of the response when i run it on the dyno. My last dyno run net 235awkw and now i will be adding this EBC and apexi pods which are already installed to see if i can mimmic the nice midrange gains that URAS tested.

BTW who is that bloke Trent? is he a tuner? cos he sound like the go-to guy.

[STATUS]

let you know in an hour or so i have a killer S15 here that i just finished installng a HKS EVC 6 (had it on dyno with various other controller before this on) into.... going on dyno now.

will keep you posted.

in my experience the stepper is as good as any other single sonelnoid controller out there it is just the dual solenoids which are slightly superior.

[R33GTRKid]

oooh anxiously awaiting URAS response, i have a evc6 waiting to go on the gtr...

[Bakes]

Just got one put in my car yesterday at IS Motor Racing. With the extra boost I picked up 20-30 KW from coming on boost all the way through the rev range to peak power at 6700RPM. My latest dyno graph is in the RB26 dyno results thread page 8

[Johnny]

let you know in an hour or so i have a killer S15 here that i just finished installng a HKS EVC 6 (had it on dyno with various other controller before this on) into.... going on dyno now.

will keep you posted.

in my experience the stepper is as good as any other single sonelnoid controller out there it is just the dual solenoids which are slightly superior.

Great thanks mate, appreciate that and the information in your previous thread. Put it this way, i was 2seconds away from buying the power fc EBC kit! and what i waste that would have been.

Gotta love the look of the hks module huh

Just got one put in my car yesterday at IS Motor Racing. With the extra boost I picked up 20-30 KW from coming on boost all the way through the rev range to peak power at 6700RPM. My latest dyno graph is in the RB26 dyno results thread page 8

Thanks man, ill check out your dyno graph now. Seems like im gonna be real happy with this bit of kit.

[STATUS]

Ok now i must admit the first few moments with this kit gave me the shits as the instructions were more confusing than helpful it turns out some-one had played with it while i was washing up.... a simple full system reset and all was good.

After the firsat few hiccups the unit is actually VERY easy to use, it holds boost extremely well and is nice and clear to view peak boost ect. Wiring was imple and THR, RPM and SPD was the only other input needed to make it fully functional. It allows for BOOST vs RPM, THR or SPD

the only down side is it could not match the GIZZMO unit (about 200rpm slower) for ramp rate even after countless differrent settings. i have attached a boost comparison. i would rate this unit as an 8/10. The GIZZMO unit (red line) had a slight problem holding boost up top on this run but subsequent runs had it fixed easily but i forgot to save the run for a $399 (full retail) boost controller it actually outgunned the HKS

On the attached Dyno sheet (ingore bottom specs) The thin red line is the GIZZMO unit and the orange is the HKS.

I really wanted to do a back to back with the IDIII (blitz) as it is my favourite due to past results but i was out of stock but based on these tests i reckon it would also ramp quicker than the EVC6 as ive upgraded a few GIZZMO controllers up to IDIII's (against my advise) and had zero improvements.

[driftmeister]

Hi Johnny & All

Sorry to hijack your thread. I also bought the EVC6 and even post up a thread bcos im not sure how to utilise the Boost Correction setup for partial throttle. Appreciate some help from those who has installed this unit.

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/Ev...ap-t231124.html

Can help on what's the best settings for FUN 5 (THR & RPM) for T04E turbo im using which is laggy up to 4500rpm.

[Johnny]

Thanks Trent for da update, i hope you worked out all the settings. Where do you get all your cars tuned? do u have a shop as i want a better tune on my power fc and someone to professionally install and tune da ebc.

I have been holding out on calling anyone because i want to find someone who will treat the car like it was their own.

btw driftmeister, i hope you work out all the issues in your car.

[STATUS]

Thanks Trent for da update, i hope you worked out all the settings. Where do you get all your cars tuned? do u have a shop as i want a better tune on my power fc and someone to professionally install and tune da ebc.

I have been holding out on calling anyone because i want to find someone who will treat the car like it was their own.

btw driftmeister, i hope you work out all the issues in your car.

Yeah the setting were no dramas, just some-one with itchy fingers had a play whilst i was away cleaning my hands . i have my own shop and dyno facility. I have included some pics of the install. We fitted it into the ashtray (do lots of custom work) so it was hidden, after the install the lid sat over it and it all looked std. There are plenty of decent shops around what area are you?

[STATUS]

ah im probably to far away i'm on the other side of town, south dandenong, shops called status tuning.

[Bakes]

Great Install. Looks tops!

[driftmeister]

That's nice install though it's hard to look at unless car is stationary. Had mine installed at the astray area below the player on 34GTT so it's slightly upright. Will load up pics soon.

[Johnny]

Hey blokes,

I just thought id update this thread with some pics of the EVC 6 if anyone is interested in purchasing one in the near future.

I would like to comment on the quality as it seems very nice, solid and quite heavy. The screen is also very tasteful from an asthetics point of view

I will be having it installed at creatd ms on wednesday next week so i should be able to post a little review on its strengths and weaknesses.....compared and contrasted to the current EVC version 3.

[STATUS]

That's nice install though it's hard to look at unless car is stationary. Had mine installed at the astray area below the player on 34GTT so it's slightly upright. Will load up pics soon.

yeah customer wanted it there, once it set though there is very little need to ever touch it.... the way i see how much boost is controlled by your right foot only the maximum is controlled by the boost controller

[Beer Baron]

johnny, I will be shocked if the EVC 6 properly tuned is any better than an EVC 3 properly tuned. they both seem to use the same hardware to me. maybe the software has improved enough to make some improvement but I'm a little dubious.

[Johnny]

johnny, I will be shocked if the EVC 6 properly tuned is any better than an EVC 3 properly tuned. they both seem to use the same hardware to me. maybe the software has improved enough to make some improvement but I'm a little dubious.

Hey baron, Im sure that your right but again i just like the look of the unit so im upgrading. I have a booking for next wednesday at creatd ms for intallation so hopefully i will be able to give you some results.

also anyone who is interested on the gains of pod filters on their gtr as well

oh and i will be selling the HKS EVC 3 for a really good price for anyone who needs a boost controller and is a little low on funds.

Johnny