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mmmm i wanna watch the superlap australia, theres 2 v8 supercar style cars and there's also a race done up r34, though not as epic as the super gt nissan gtr's i wonder how it'll go... there's also another like 4 32gtr's haha

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Check this out - http://speedhunters.com/archive/2010/05/20...ession-one.aspx

These are the latest results from Superlap Australia @ Eastern Creek International Raceway in Sydney TODAY.

The Sierra Sierra Evo clocked a time of 1:32.2480.

Now the fastes ever lap time at Eastern Creek International Raceway in a V8 supercar was by Mark Skaife in a VT Commodore 1:31.7301.

The Hi-Octane R34 GTR is yet to set a lap time but my guess is it will be around the lap time of the Sierra Sierra Evo, if not a little slower due to traction issues.

Now if we look at this properly, the fastest lap time in a V8 supercar was set around ~10years ago, and the time-attack cars of today can not keep up with the V8 supercar's times.

That pretty much proves that a V8 Supercar would absolutely smash a GTR Skyline around a racetrack, regardless of whether its something small like Barbagello's of long and flowing like Bathurst!

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Check this out - http://speedhunters.com/archive/2010/05/20...ession-one.aspx

These are the latest results from Superlap Australia @ Eastern Creek International Raceway in Sydney TODAY.

The Sierra Sierra Evo clocked a time of 1:32.2480.

Now the fastes ever lap time at Eastern Creek International Raceway in a V8 supercar was by Mark Skaife in a VT Commodore 1:31.7301.

The Hi-Octane R34 GTR is yet to set a lap time but my guess is it will be around the lap time of the Sierra Sierra Evo, if not a little slower due to traction issues.

Now if we look at this properly, the fastest lap time in a V8 supercar was set around ~10years ago, and the time-attack cars of today can not keep up with the V8 supercar's times.

That pretty much proves that a V8 Supercar would absolutely smash a GTR Skyline around a racetrack, regardless of whether its something small like Barbagello's of long and flowing like Bathurst!

.... and yet you missed the part where I said that the race prepped R32 GTR that skaife himself drove around bathurst, and drove again recently around bathurst, was only 3 seconds slower than the quallifying speeds of the V8 supercars of today. The car is 20 years old and STILL pretty much a match for the V8 supercars. Put that money into an 34R and I have no doubts that it would be closer.

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At the end of the day, the current V8 supercars will be faster than a car such as the Mines R34 GTR Skyline.

HOWEVER, I do agree that if a team with proper engineers and real funding was to spend as much time, money & testing on a GTR as the current teams do on their V8 Supercars, then yes i agree that a GTR would be a good match for the V8's.

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Yeah, the comparison between the MINES GTR and the V8 was always going to fail, it has to be fully funded race prepped 34R vs fully race prepped V8 Supercar to be a proper comparison. However doesn't look like we'd be able to see them on a track together anytime soon :P Such a shame...

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a good comparison is the GT3 porsche , i think this would be a similar lap time to a full on GTR 34 given the r35 is slightly faster than a GT3, is this a fair comment . GT3 best lap can do a lap of Mallala in 1.14 secs and greg murphy commodore v8 supercar in 1.08 .

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I was at the Eastern Creek World Time Attack, there was the High Octane R34 GTR that did a lap time of 1:34.1090 and a Mal Rose Racing Holden Commodore with a lap time of 1:39.3230.

Fair to say both cars were in the same pro class with a 5secs difference, so I would naturally think a modified R34 GTR is a faster car around a track than a modifed V8 Holden.

I have not mentioned the CyberEvo present at the event took the 1st place with a lap time of 1:30.5870, could potentially done a 1:29 but did not due to near blown engine which they tried to fix overnight nonetheless still managed to win the pro class event.

Not sure if you guys know, but the CyberEvo does laps around Tsukuba track in Japan in the 54secs range similar to that of the MSpeed R34 GTR, so we can pretty much use the CyberEvo lap times around Eastern Creek and compare that to the Mal Rose Holden Commodore, meaning a near 9 seconds difference.

Stock R34 GTR vs V8 Supercar, thats not even fair to even compare.

Modified R34 GTR vs Modified V8 Holden, as above R34 GTR clearly is faster.

GT500 R34 GTR vs V8 Supercar, I wouldn't have a clue but my money is on the GT500 R34 GTR

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