Jump to content
SAU Community

Gt35r Vs Garrett T04z - Discussion (just Post In This Thread To Create A Database)


Recommended Posts

I believe that plot is for cerbera (the other simon), not quite as full on as the original.

Agree T04GTR, my 35r is far from boring (esp rwd) but it doesnt compare to the nothing nothing bang and scream to the limiter of a mates hks t04z - but he is cheating with a jun stroker :P he also has awd so its not a very fair comparison I spose.

I believe that plot is for cerbera (the other simon), not quite as full on as the original.

Agree T04GTR, my 35r is far from boring (esp rwd) but it doesnt compare to the nothing nothing bang and scream to the limiter of a mates hks t04z - but he is cheating with a jun stroker :P he also has awd so its not a very fair comparison I spose.

Ahh fair enough :)

My GT35R should be on in a month or so and I will post the tyre frying results :(

I believe that plot is for cerbera (the other simon), not quite as full on as the original.

Agree T04GTR, my 35r is far from boring (esp rwd) but it doesnt compare to the nothing nothing bang and scream to the limiter of a mates hks t04z - but he is cheating with a jun stroker :down: he also has awd so its not a very fair comparison I spose.

come on i was carrying an extra 400kg than you too so i think the stroker is fair :P Pity u never took me for a spin to compare it though, looks like i'll have to wait a while

Simon aka R32-GTS is who DCIEVE is talking about (I think :)). Too much headwork to compare to any old 26 with a T04Z

It's Cerberas graph.

I used that one instead of Natallottos because Cerbera has no head porting, and just mild 270 degree cams.

The 35R has been scaled 5% to take into account its on a hubber.

It's the closest thing I could get to a fair comparisson between the two, and subsequently, I've just purchased a 35R.

hey how did yours come up michael? obviously happy with the results!

here is a link to our car running a HKS TO4Z setup at the Bathurst sprint a few weeks ago, overall the results we pretty good but takes abit to get use to as we are use to running small twin setups.

we limited boost to 25psi which made approx 430 awkw's on the rollers, fiddled with cams a fair bit whiched helped the middle alot, i think full boost was around 4700 - 4800.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=lf6opg6Mdt0

cheers russ

p.s i prefer more response, but the single rush was good too. wouldnt be as much fun on a tight track

Spoolup has a to4z on his rb30det.

There's a few dyno sheets on the link below.

http://www.spoolimports.com/content/SpoolImportsR33.asp

R34 NEO head - HKS 272 / 9.35 cams, Performance Valve Springs

Garrett T04Z turbo 0.96 ex housing

23psi 581rwhp.

The boosts knee so to speak appears to be a little after 4000rpm.

A pair of 272 10.5mm lift cams would work much better on his setup.

As for a GT35 pushing more than a genuine 400rwkw (535rwhp) on the RB with pump fuel. I'm not a believer. :)

Edited by TheRogue
As for a GT35 pushing more than a genuine 400rwkw (535rwhp) on the RB with pump fuel. I'm not a believer. :D

Thats unfortunate, it has been done time and time again and all going well I'll hopefully be able to post a plot for another one in a month.

It's Cerberas graph.

I used that one instead of Natallottos because Cerbera has no head porting, and just mild 270 degree cams.

The 35R has been scaled 5% to take into account its on a hubber.

It's the closest thing I could get to a fair comparisson between the two, and subsequently, I've just purchased a 35R.

From the horses mouth :D

My 35R is so close to being on I can feel the happiness in my pants stirring :D

hey how did yours come up michael? obviously happy with the results!

here is a link to our car running a HKS TO4Z setup at the Bathurst sprint a few weeks ago, overall the results we pretty good but takes abit to get use to as we are use to running small twin setups.

we limited boost to 25psi which made approx 430 awkw's on the rollers, fiddled with cams a fair bit whiched helped the middle alot, i think full boost was around 4700 - 4800.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=lf6opg6Mdt0

cheers russ

p.s i prefer more response, but the single rush was good too. wouldnt be as much fun on a tight track

Hey Russ,

yep we are only running 20psi at the moment, 330kw, fair way short of the big T04Z. havent touched the cams. full boost around 4300rpm. Will get to QR at the first Timeattack and see how it goes.

I'm thinking down the track try some fuel and 26psi. :D

Maybe for superlap!! :D

we limited boost to 25psi which made approx 430 awkw's on the rollers, fiddled with cams a fair bit whiched helped the middle alot, i think full boost was around 4700 - 4800

Sounds almost like he'd have been happier with a GT35R :D I'm pretty sure that power would be achieveable with 25psi on race gas, and in my experience a GT35R feels a bit more lively underfoot than a pair of GT2860-5s.

yeah, I'm thinking 26psi and some good fuel, I should touch up 400kw on the 2.6 35R combo. will look at that hopefully for superlap! :D

Between the gears, down low it's just awesome. Can't wait to put more boost into it, I'm sure it will come alive.

defo, would be great

post the link! :)

not that we want to go too off topic, but heres my on-car footage.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=g8aiGRO5Ifk

yeah, i just think the 35 is boring compared to t04z, besides hks doesnt do a gt35 equivalent.... lagmaster ftw. :)

Correct. The closest thing that HKS have to a GT35R is the GT3240 (rated by HKS at 580hp), which is a GT35R with a cut-back rear wheel and 0.87 housing ;)

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now



  • Latest Posts

    • I had 3 counts over the last couple of weeks once where i got stranded at a jdm paint yard booking in some work. 2nd time was moving the car into the drive way for the inspection and the 3rd was during the inspection for the co2 leak test. Fix: 1st, car off for a hour and half disconnected battery 10mins 4th try car started 2nd, 5th try started 3rd, countless time starting disconnected battery dude was under the hood listening to the starting sequence fuel pump ect.   
    • This. As for your options - I suggest remote mounting the Nissan sensor further away on a length of steel tube. That tube to have a loop in it to handle vibration, etc etc. You will need to either put a tee and a bleed fitting near the sensor, or crack the fitting at the sensor to bleed it full of oil when you first set it up, otherwise you won't get the line filled. But this is a small problem. Just needs enough access to get it done.
    • The time is always correct. Only the date is wrong. It currently thinks it is January 19. Tomorrow it will say it is January 20. The date and time are ( should be ! ) retrieved from the GPS navigation system.
    • Buy yourself a set of easy outs. See if they will get a good bite in and unthread it.   Very very lucky the whole sender didn't let go while on the track and cost you a motor!
    • Well GTSBoy, prepare yourself further. I did a track day with 1/2 a day prep on Friday, inpromptu. The good news is that I got home, and didn't drive the car into a wall. Everything seemed mostly okay. The car was even a little faster than it was last time. I also got to get some good datalog data too. I also noticed a tiny bit of knock which was (luckily?) recorded. All I know is the knock sensors got recalibrated.... and are notorious for false knock. So I don't know if they are too sensitive, not sensitive enough... or some other third option. But I reduced timing anyway. It wasn't every pull through the session either. Think along the lines of -1 degree of timing for say, three instances while at the top of 4th in a 20 minute all-hot-lap session. Unfortunately at the end of session 2... I noticed a little oil. I borrowed some jack stands and a jack and took a look under there, but as is often the case, messing around with it kinda half cleaned it up, it was not conclusive where it was coming from. I decided to give it another go and see how it was. The amount of oil was maybe one/two small drops. I did another 20 minute session and car went well, and I was just starting to get into it and not be terrified of driving on track. I pulled over and checked in the pits and saw this: This is where I called it, packed up and went home as I live ~20 min from the track with a VERY VERY CLOSE EYE on Oil Pressure on the way home. The volume wasn't much but you never know. I checked it today when I had my own space/tools/time to find out what was going on, wanted to clean it up, run the car and see if any of the fittings from around the oil filter were causing it. I have like.. 5 fittings there, so I suspected one was (hopefully?) the culprit. It became immediately apparent as soon as I looked around more closely. 795d266d-a034-4b8c-89c9-d83860f5d00a.mp4       This is the R34 GTT oil sender connected via an adapter to an oil cooler block I have installed which runs AN lines to my cooler (and back). There's also an oil temp sensor on top.  Just after that video, I attempted to unthread the sensor to see if it's loose/worn and it disintegrated in my hand. So yes. I am glad I noticed that oil because it would appear that complete and utter catastrophic engine failure was about 1 second of engine runtime away. I did try to drill the fitting out, and only succeeded in drilling the middle hole much larger and now there's a... smooth hole in there with what looks like a damn sleeve still incredibly tight in there. Not really sure how to proceed from here. My options: 1) Find someone who can remove the stuck fitting, and use a steel adapter so it won't fatigue? (Female BSPT for the R34 sender to 1/8NPT male - HARD to find). IF it isn't possible to remove - Buy a new block ($320) and have someone tap a new 1/8NPT in the top of it ($????) and hope the steel adapter works better. 2) Buy a new block and give up on the OEM pressure sender for the dash entirely, and use the supplied 1/8 NPT for the oil temp sender. Having the oil pressure read 0 in the dash with the warning lamp will give me a lot of anxiety driving around. I do have the actual GM sensor/sender working, but it needs OBD2 as a gauge. If I'm datalogging I don't actually have a readout of what the gauge is currently displaying. 3) Other? Find a new location for the OEM sender? Though I don't know of anywhere that will work. I also don't know if a steel adapter is actually functionally smart here. It's clearly leveraged itself through vibration of the motor and snapped in half. This doesn't seem like a setup a smart person would replicate given the weight of the OEM sender. Still pretty happy being lucky for once and seeing this at the absolute last moment before bye bye motor in a big way, even if an adapter is apparently 6 weeks+ delivery and I have no way to free the current stuck/potentially destroyed threads in the current oil block.
×
×
  • Create New...