R32 - Rb20 220 230kws Vs New V8's

[RustyR32Gtst]

who cares if your faster or slower, at least your not driving a holden

Gold ! End of thread ???

[dangerman4]

have any of u driven a the new 6 lt comodore?

a mate has the brand new maloo ute.

he kept raving about it so i jumped at the chance when he offered me a drive.

6 speed manual 300 and whatever kws at the engine, exhaust etc , and i was most disapointed.

it would pull a 30 foot yaught up a big ass hill at 2000rpm but it just didnt want to rev.

felt more like a turbo diesel to me.

[Aiight]

sounds like another epic fail by holden

ive witnessed one doing a burnout and somehow it still managed to peg leg out of a doughnut.

WTF holden?? surely they could put a decent diff underneath a "performance" car

[R33GOD]

Edited November 27, 2008 by R33GOD

[Hunting Lions]

at the end of the day australian v8's arent built to go quick they are a zippy family car and that about it cos they are far to heavy.

my rbo 20 pulled 150rwkw which is f*k all really and i havent had any get away from me.

dont no about the new ones havent really been near any but hold some hope for v8s of the future as they were able to pry themselves away from the primitive idea of push rods and single cam. for the record i hate v8's but if they were smart enough to turbo or supercharge there v8s then different story N/A isnt the greatest concept for going quick.

i dont no many v8's that are going to beat a 32 lightest of all skylines that have 220 rwkw.

i pay the man with the comment atleast your not driving a holden:)

[TTT]

I could listen to Roys car all day every day...

my favourite is still the one in my sig..

and the one on the track with the slight "lose" lol...

[super_s13]

Did he miss multiple gears, have 185 tyres on and spun the whole track, not know how to drive, blew a clutch, have it in reverse or what? A LS1 pushing that much power would smoke a 188rwkw skyline any day of the week even with a crap launch, so obviously there is more to the story. A VX clubby does a quarter in about 14 seconds give or take with variables. A stock RB25 does it in about 14-14.5, lets say one with 188rwkw does a 13.5 for arguments sake, once again give or take. You beat a 270rwkw clubby by 1.2seconds...... So his 270rwkw clubby is slower than a stock clubby?

Once again i ask, what's the rest of the story?

That proves to me you cant drive. A mate with one in his VL is running 180rwkw and ran a 12.3 on slicks. runs 12.7 on street tyres dude. He has a clean run and he was the one that cam up to me after and asked what the f**k i was running as he was waiting to slap me. I got a clean run and ran a 13.1 @ 106mph.

[Aiight]

what MPH did the vl run, and 60 foot?

must have been f**king good off the line to run any 12

Edited November 28, 2008 by Aiight

[bozodos]

umm I dont know what sort of LS1's some of you have been driving, cause they must have been near dead or something.

I hopped in my mates VX SS with twin 2.5 exhaust and LS1Edit and it dosen't really powerband until around 4000rpm, which is reached surprisingly quickly!

The old 5 litre dosen't like to rev much though (at least in a stock or near stock form)

[DrewII]

i was racing (yeh i know irresponsible) but thats what this thread is about. being irresponsible on the street against holdens

i was playing one day with the latest holden monaro GTO (the 6 litre) had the 307kw sticker on the back. ill admit the thing did look nice and honestly this thing was so loud i could not hear my car at all !!!! and my car is pretty loud. obviously he had done his exhaust extractors god knows what else. and when we both gave it a genuine hit rolling at about 30k/hr there was nothing in it. we were dead neck to neck. and i knew from that screaming V8 he was giving it his all. and so was i. and this was before my Toshi remap. they are no way as quick as what people think.

whoops forgot to add my car is R33 but hey another hit for the skylines

Edited November 28, 2008 by DrewII

[PM-R33]

That proves to me you cant drive. A mate with one in his VL is running 180rwkw and ran a 12.3 on slicks. runs 12.7 on street tyres dude. He has a clean run and he was the one that cam up to me after and asked what the f**k i was running as he was waiting to slap me. I got a clean run and ran a 13.1 @ 106mph.

Where did i ever mention my driving? I stated FACTS about the rough times these cars run down the drags in stock form or with slight work done to them. So your comment about my driving is completely irrelevant. I said a RB25 with 188rwkw roughly runs a 13.5 and it does. Is your RB25 in a R33 or is in in a S13, however your sig says its an RB20 so which one is it?

Ok so you ran a 13.1, congrats, you said you beat the VX clubby by 1.2 seconds, therefore it ran a 14.3 correct? Once again i ask, whats the rest of the story since a standard VX clubby will run that, not a 270rwkw one......

You are honestly wondering why i think your story is bullshit?

Edited November 28, 2008 by PM-R33

[rev210]

One of my old cars ran 13.2 with about 170rwkw RB20 powered R32 gtst. Old R33 was 13.3 @106mph both stock turbo.

[mico]

this thing is a bit dangerous tho ... http://www.uniquecarsales.com.au/pls/carsa...mp;photo_flag=1

[super_s13]

Where did i ever mention my driving? I stated FACTS about the rough times these cars run down the drags in stock form or with slight work done to them. So your comment about my driving is completely irrelevant. I said a RB25 with 188rwkw roughly runs a 13.5 and it does. Is your RB25 in a R33 or is in in a S13, however your sig says its an RB20 so which one is it?

Ok so you ran a 13.1, congrats, you said you beat the VX clubby by 1.2 seconds, therefore it ran a 14.3 correct? Once again i ask, whats the rest of the story since a standard VX clubby will run that, not a 270rwkw one......

You are honestly wondering why i think your story is bullshit?

My car is now a r32 with a 25det in it. Pretty stock with only 189.7rwkw. I honestly say i keep up if not beat any V8 i have raced up here. I like all cars but i have not been beaten by one yet.

The vl ran a MPH 108 and 60ft of 2.1 i believe. That was with slicks and a et of 12.3

[super_s13]

The pink VL is the one i am talking about.

That white ss ute he is racing i believe would be a ls1 yeah. Correct me if i am wrong as i dont know much bout them. The ute is a fellow names Brad Stott. He has cams a remap and full exhaust. Look how much he gets slapped by and i pretty sure there both running slicks. The VL is pushing 180rwkw.

[dangerman4]

the vl is also a auto.

so would be reading higher power if it was a manual.

but i agree ls1 ls2 's are shit.

jap technology has been around for near on 20 yrs, yet aus keeps producing this heavy underpowered garbage.

why have imports become so popular? because the amount of car you get for your money simply cant be matched in aus.

i for one would never buy another aussie car. (4x4 excluded as japanese dont really use them.)

look at were ford is heading with the xr6

its about time they got rid of the "found on rubbish dump" attitude that most people over 30 have of them.

the old ea falcon etc were an absolute discrace to ford, and should never have been produced with a made in australia claim.

surely we can make something better then that.

holden flirted with the jap tech with the vl and for the life of me i cant see what positives they gained by canning it.

they had a light family car that went well. why stop making them.

especially when you watch that vid above showing a 88 model car easily beating 20 yrs of holdens technology.

what a joke.

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

holden used that motor out of desperation....

they simply could not update the old 202 any further and it was WAAAAY underpowered and thirsty.

they then developed their own "australian" motor *cougbuickcough*

and borrowing an american motor is ok cause its a v8 and that aparently makes everything ok....

[BANGN]

iv drivn a new SS ute.. they are boring and was slower than my old 250rwhp R32 however it felt like the SS was restricted by technology, just felt underpowered

[PM-R33]

You have to remember how heavy all of these new commodores/falcons are. You chuck a LS1/LS2 into a lighter car like a S13 and it definetely won't feal boring. Youtube "RX7 LS1" and watch how quick those things are even in basic stock form.

At the end of the day, technology means weight, simple as that. Perfect example the R35. Today's demands with 100 airbags, electronics superior to that of some home computers, zoned climate control, electric seats with 100 different motors, stereo systems with 30 speakers etc makes it very difficult to build a car targeted to a majority of people (families, work vehicles, towing etc) that is still going to be under 1400kg.

[super_s13]

You have to remember how heavy all of these new commodores/falcons are. You chuck a LS1/LS2 into a lighter car like a S13 and it definetely won't feal boring. Youtube "RX7 LS1" and watch how quick those things are even in basic stock form.

At the end of the day, technology means weight, simple as that. Perfect example the R35. Today's demands with 100 airbags, electronics superior to that of some home computers, zoned climate control, electric seats with 100 different motors, stereo systems with 30 speakers etc makes it very difficult to build a car targeted to a majority of people (families, work vehicles, towing etc) that is still going to be under 1400kg.

I agree with this. A mate of mine has a VX i think it is. A clubby with over 500rwkw fully worked with a 3.3lt Whipple. He is running low 11's yet another guy up in Darwin runs 11.7 with under 500hp in his gtr. The commo weighs in at a massive 2100kg yet my skyline is about 1400 i think. Not confirmed yet but still the power to weight is crazy