TALBO Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 I don't know who's worse.... Max or Bernie..? We need a poll Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/250076-2009-f1-season/page/43/#findComment-4573511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TALBO Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Looks as though that f**khead Max doesn't want to give teams the option of falling outside of the proposed budget cap.... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/250076-2009-f1-season/page/43/#findComment-4580305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BezerkR32 Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 are you not contradicting yourself? the fact that a four stroke engine is being turned in excess of 20000rpm is unbelievable, how is that not the pinicle of motorsport? the absolute limit of technological engineering? giving teams this freedom doesnt mean they will all take it. Unreliabel cars dont win championships. Can't wait to see 20,000+rpm though...However I agree with Montezemolo, F1 is ment to be the pinnacle of technological and engineering in motorsport, the absolute limit of racing... I think this approach is killing that.. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/250076-2009-f1-season/page/43/#findComment-4580576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TALBO Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 It could be argued though that without an engine 'freeze', F1 technology could potentially have these engines revving well and truly above the 20K RPM mark..... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/250076-2009-f1-season/page/43/#findComment-4580673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco-R34GTT Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 All I'm going to say is that although F1 remains cutting edge and very advanced in a technology and engineering sense... It is also rapidly becoming the pinnacle of gheyness too, with Max and Bernie and some nazi sl*ts all parading on the first ghey and formula 1 mardi gras float! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/250076-2009-f1-season/page/43/#findComment-4580718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh@un Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Before the decision was made to cut rev limits to 19,000, and then 18,000 rpm for this season, BMW had bench tested 2.4L V8s making 800+hp at 23,000rpm... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/250076-2009-f1-season/page/43/#findComment-4581815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TALBO Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 So we can only imagine what they would've been capable of had they not freezed development I'm hoping Ferrari's new aero package works for them this weekend.... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/250076-2009-f1-season/page/43/#findComment-4581832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh@un Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 I'll be hoping it doesn't Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/250076-2009-f1-season/page/43/#findComment-4582346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
djr81 Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 So we can only imagine what they would've been capable of had they not freezed developmentI'm hoping Ferrari's new aero package works for them this weekend.... The Cosworth V8 that Williams used a couple years back pulled 20,000rpm not long after it first ran. Mostly the engine freeze meant alot of very talented people got sacked. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/250076-2009-f1-season/page/43/#findComment-4582359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TALBO Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Speaking of engines..... Bernie is now saying that teams that want to abide by the budget caps (and it's looking more and more like all teams won't have an option) will have engine costs fall outside of the budget caps as well as what we all already knew in regards to driver salaries falling outside the confines of the budget cap. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/250076-2009-f1-season/page/43/#findComment-4582368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
djr81 Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 (edited) Speaking of engines..... Bernie is now saying that teams that want to abide by the budget caps (and it's looking more and more like all teams won't have an option) will have engine costs fall outside of the budget caps as well as what we all already knew in regards to driver salaries falling outside the confines of the budget cap. Yeah well whatever Max & Bernie are smoking they should stop it. The engine proposals they keep coming up with get more & more strange by the week. No they are after something called a universal engine which is to be used across categories. I have always been a fan of Bernies but I think he has finally lost it. Edited May 8, 2009 by djr81 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/250076-2009-f1-season/page/43/#findComment-4582397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 I want to see all the manufacturers walk out and stick with this years rules, instant multi million dollar saving right there. Have a car that runs under the same rules for 3 years, then change a simple vairable like engines, or use of data acquisition, communication to the pits or to and from the pits. So many ways to make the racing cheaper without re-writing the rule book Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/250076-2009-f1-season/page/43/#findComment-4582411 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TALBO Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Problem is Bernie and Max think F1 is about them. When they come to the realisation that it's about the sport, cars, teams and everything that is made up of those things they might actually pull their heads out of their assholes and stop trying to destroy the sport.... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/250076-2009-f1-season/page/43/#findComment-4582503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Well its made them both lots of money...this weekend will be interesting. Spewing that my leave has been cancelled and not able to fly over for the weekend. Hope RBR are still competitive and McLaren/Renaul/Ferrari/BMW have not caught up Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/250076-2009-f1-season/page/43/#findComment-4582513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh@un Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 +1 for 3 year rule freezes you play with it too much, and you go blind, remember- Bernie and Max Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/250076-2009-f1-season/page/43/#findComment-4582804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
benm Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Practice 1 results are in: http://www.formula1.com/results/season/2009/808/6623/ Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/250076-2009-f1-season/page/43/#findComment-4582976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh@un Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 McLaren are nowhere. Oh well, let's see what happens in Quali tonight... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/250076-2009-f1-season/page/43/#findComment-4583578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TALBO Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 I too am hoping things are going to get better today for Ferrari Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/250076-2009-f1-season/page/43/#findComment-4584309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TALBO Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 Ferrari top the time sheets finally.... I know it's only practise but let me be excited even if it's only until qualifying Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/250076-2009-f1-season/page/43/#findComment-4584547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 COME ON WEBZ!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/250076-2009-f1-season/page/43/#findComment-4584780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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