Ugly Ass Noise On Cold Startup

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

hey guys, on a cold start i get a grinding noise for 1-2 seconds max after the car first turns over.

engine is 25det

it tends not to happen when the car is warm.

2 area's i was thinking are starter motor (although why would this be diferent when warm) and oil viscosity

i use motul turbolight 10/40 as do MILLIONS of other on here...

any ideas?

[FOOLBOOST]

Does it always happen? How long ago did it start?

Mine has a similar noise that comes and goes either starter motor or exhaust is touching something

[No Crust Racing]

Could be a worn bearing, start it cold with a mate in front or vice versa so you can try and pin point it. Lots of ancillary devices can have bearing issues (air con, power steer pump, alternator)

If you can be more specific that would help.

It will change with temp because friction coefficients are effected by temperature. Hold/Cold causes things to expand and contract etc.

Edited December 29, 2008 by ActionDan

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

yeah power steering pump is on the way out... you can hear it grind a tiny bit with a stethoscope on idle.

exhaust is bot touching anything.... i've been over that with a fine tooth comb as a previous (read NON japanese) exhaust did that and caused me all sorts of headf**ks.

[No Crust Racing]

Make sure it's not just low on fluid, they do gt noisy then too. If you're confident that's the issue then it's a simple task to swap it out.

Let us know how you go.

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

prolly should check that one

[FOOLBOOST]

Also check the belt tension...

[wolverine]

belt tension, if it is the same noise i had a few years ago. it was an ugly ass grinding (not squealing) noise.

[Bliksem]

Sounds like the starter motor throw-out gear not retracting quick enough.

Common problem... bit of a bitch to replace but not too hard if your handy with a spanner.

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

see this was my idea... DGAF if its just the starter motor gettin noisy... i'd rather pay for go fast mods...

it never happened till i got remote start...

remote start (viper alarm) keeps cranking for a predesignated time, and with the pfc the time the car takes to start could be anything

so to use remote start (which i never do now) it grinds the shit out of it for like half a second most times

[madbung]

There are a few threads on this one, yes it sounds like the starter gear is not returning quickly as it should.

Odds are if you remove it it will have 10+yrs of clutch dust, road grime and oil on it that is slowing/stopping it from returning correctly.

Remove-clean-replace. Unless it's chewed the starter gear or flywheel badly you should be ok.

[kwikr33]

i had a high pitched .squeel on cold start up 4 a month ended up being the clutch....so sounded like an exhaust prob//

[mongrel]

starter motors have a overrun clutch, If your remote start has been over cranking, the sprag clutch maybe worn/damaged, when you start normally the engine over speeds the starter motor, you release key, usually the sprag clutch slips and the gear can retract. cos your clutch is damaged it maybe holding the gear on a little more

[No Crust Racing]

Keep us posted, I'm keen to hear what this was in the end.

[SiR_RB]

sorry to bring up an oldish thread...but mine has started to do the exact same thing only few days ago....and only does it durin cold starts for 1 or 2 seconds after the engine has started

the noise is comin from the starter motor area so im guessin the starter gear is doin sumfin wrong

how can this be fixed? would the starter have to pulled out?

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

its totally the starter moter... just cant release quick enough... problem is same same now.... no worse... i'm not gonna bother about it. everything else in the car works fine

[SiR_RB]

true, i'l just leave it until it gets worse or when the starter decides to die haha

[R 2 THE J]

+1 on starter motor.

mines doin it too.

Dam 33 starters.

Mine did it a while ago, about 2 yrs to be precise.

Took it out, greased it up, was dry as a bone.

hooked it up to 12v battery, let it spin a couple of times till the noise went. Sweet as.

But its startin to do it again, might just replace it this time round.

RJ

[n/aTurbo]

mine was starter too. If i was you id get it replaced, my gave out about 3 weeks after i heard the grinding.

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

hahaha, i'm on a year now....