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I bet it will still be working 6 months from now, unlike any other turbo he has had :D

It's probably not fair for you to comment on the past turbos because Garrett aren't the ones necessarily at fault. Bolting on a different brand is not necessarily going to fix the problem. Garrett don't make shit. They have a 0.1% failure rate due to manufacturing faults. It all comes down to what has happened to them while they are on the car or after something else has gone wrong. The first two were shortly after engine failures. The next two had massive chunks missing from the compressor blades prior to them failing.

At any rate, Noel is already having a fairly hard time dealing with it so I'm just going to give him as much support as he needs to get it on the track again.

He certainly doesn't deserve to have so many let go. I'm just trying to point out that it's not always cut and dry like most ppl think.

The quiet hint a few pages back didn't work so I'll leave these links here...

http://www.motoiq.com/magazine_articles/ar...efr-turbos.aspx

And more info

http://www.full-race.com/articles/borgwarner-efr-turbos.html

T04s are relatively inexpensive and reliable on any other car, but Christine eats them for lunch. Before you come to the conclusion that sleeve bearing turbos are inferior, let's not forget the three GT35Rs Christine (Sierra Sierra EVO) destroyed previously when the engine was making less power
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The quiet hint a few pages back didn't work so I'll leave these links here...

http://www.motoiq.com/magazine_articles/ar...efr-turbos.aspx

And more info

http://www.full-race.com/articles/borgwarner-efr-turbos.html

Interesting reading...

  • 3 weeks later...
Dunno what we're gonna do yet mate. I do know we are pulling the fresh engine out to see if any damage occurred as a result. Here's hoping for the best.

You cant be serious? I finally check back and read this..

Hope all is well, any updates?

You cant be serious? I finally check back and read this..

Hope all is well, any updates?

Deadly serious. Busted the bearing cage and sent the turbine flying into the exhaust.

On a more positive note the engine survived it with minor abrasions. New bearings and a clean out and we're good to go.

Waiting to hear what Garrett have to offer us before we make the next step

Do you know the cause?

well from what we can gather:

3L bottom end + GT3582R with 0.82A/R rear housing

750deg runner temps but possibly exceeding 950 degrees in the housing due to the size restriction. The bearing cage and everything around it was blue all the way to the comp side apparently.

Considering an offer from Garrett but if he moves to the BW turbos it will be a 0.92A/R but better than that it will be a T4 footprint which means more gas flow and less heat. Unfortunately it means more hp which we don't want

well from what we can gather:

3L bottom end + GT3582R with 0.82A/R rear housing

750deg runner temps but possibly exceeding 950 degrees in the housing due to the size restriction. The bearing cage and everything around it was blue all the way to the comp side apparently.

Considering an offer from Garrett but if he moves to the BW turbos it will be a 0.92A/R but better than that it will be a T4 footprint which means more gas flow and less heat. Unfortunately it means more hp which we don't want

I guess its better to have head room HP wise, you could run less boost and more timing and make the same power with less strain?

750deg runner temps but possibly exceeding 950 degrees in the housing due to the size restriction. The bearing cage and everything around it was blue all the way to the comp side apparently.

No other options to control the heat?

I get it, Its hard enough to put the pwer down as it is, More HP would probably make it slower around the track as opposed to faster!

Yeah i get it aswel, just something we dont hear often in here :D

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