Cost Of A Tune - Does This Sound Right?

[wolverine]

(i was agreeing with nismoid but femno snuck in)

[femno]

femno is correct also

[Mr Cali]

Do you also have a boost controller that needs setting?

Yep, I have a blitz dual boost controller

[NISMO]

What exactly have you requested?

I had a Nistune ECU tuned by Yavuz and would recommend him to anyone.

When i spoke to him he gave me 3 options

Basic tune - More in depth tune - Full all singing dancing tune -

It depends really on how much time he spends on the car. If you want hime to keep going all day long until it's perfect then I don't think the price is unrealistic. Which would be different to a basic tune that ensure everything is ok.

Of course a PowerFC is different to a NisTune ECU so that may also effect the price

[badgtr34]

in the end of the day, you pay for what you get.. when tuners ask top dollar for what they do, they do it because they can, and ppl know this! they have a reputation in the end of the day and this is what determines what they can charge for a tune.

[R31Nismoid]

(i was agreeing with nismoid but femno snuck in)

femno is correct also

haha

[Mr Cali]

in the end of the day, you pay for what you get.. when tuners ask top dollar for what they do, they do it because they can, and ppl know this! they have a reputation in the end of the day and this is what determines what they can charge for a tune.

I asked him to have a full tune + install and dial in the cam gears. Told him that this will be a street tune, not for all out power. My goal is to get closest to the 300kw mark but have the power delivery come on at a low rev range, cause I want responsiveness over top end power.

I will still go ahead with the tune with him as his reputation is right up there and at the end of the day I would rather pay to have it done right the first time.

Also he has advised that he will need the car for 4 days, so I'm expecting him to take his time and get things right

[some_cs_student]

I paid ~$1100 or a little more for a RacePace tune, and an excellent tune it was, too bad that good tuners don't work for $20/hour

[T04GTR]

if you want a thouough tune you pay for it. ive always used dave from sas. there pre dyno check is pretty anal but worth it i think. ive not paid less than 700 in all my tunes.

[T04GTR]

ps.. about the worst thing you can do is haggle the price to your tuner..... just insulting them.

[T04GTR]

ps.. about the worst thing you can do is haggle the price to your tuner..... just insulting them. i always treat my tuner like a cop.. polite and direct

[SRS13]

Another fan (customer) of Yavuz. I have been taking my car there for nearly 5 years.

He may not be the cheapest but he sure does do fantastic work, proof is in the driving.

There are so many negative stories from supposed reputable tuners and workshops in the Sydney metro area... I can say I have never heard of any about Yavuz/Unigroup Engineering. It seems from the replies above there is a reason for that.

[bozodos]

This thread has me thinking... a local tuner quoted me $100/h plus I had to buy the laptop connector for the Microtech (he's only previously tuned Haltech which he sells and LS1Edit). He did another guy's skyline for what turned out to be 11 hours work so $1100, for a "reasonable" tune,

after hearing this I decided that going to Adelaide / Melbourne to get it retuned would be the go, would say a ballpark figure of $100/h be reasonable or would it be more?

Obviously I'd have to bite the bullet and probably pay a lot, one other thing, is it true with MAP sensor based ecu's that the tune throws itself out with a change in climate? Mine was originally tuned at CRD in Sydney, and it seems excessively rich (cat blocked itself within 3 months of owning it + having to change plugs every 10000km max). Would this just be indicative of a "safe" tune or an inherent Microtech thing or perhaps something due to coming from a moderate, humid climate to a dry mediterranean one?

[N1GTR]

Oh here we go, all the microtech haters will pipe up soon

I had a safe "ish" tune on an lt12s, that meant it was a bit rich which was what i asked to. But blocked cat and changing plugs? No way. Get the tune fixed. Id start by calling a tuner and saying "i want a tune on my microtech but before you ask, no im not looking to buy a different computer i know this one is very basic compared to the current marketplace but as its basic it doesnt take long to tune and doesnt have a lot of things that can go wrong"

BTW i was quite happy with my one, if i didnt need more features for the direction this car is going, i would still have it in there

[Guilt-Toy]

This thread has me thinking... a local tuner quoted me $100/h plus I had to buy the laptop connector for the Microtech (he's only previously tuned Haltech which he sells and LS1Edit). He did another guy's skyline for what turned out to be 11 hours work so $1100, for a "reasonable" tune,

after hearing this I decided that going to Adelaide / Melbourne to get it retuned would be the go, would say a ballpark figure of $100/h be reasonable or would it be more?

Obviously I'd have to bite the bullet and probably pay a lot, one other thing, is it true with MAP sensor based ecu's that the tune throws itself out with a change in climate? Mine was originally tuned at CRD in Sydney, and it seems excessively rich (cat blocked itself within 3 months of owning it + having to change plugs every 10000km max). Would this just be indicative of a "safe" tune or an inherent Microtech thing or perhaps something due to coming from a moderate, humid climate to a dry mediterranean one?

its normal for a microtech to get rich after about 3 or 4 months of being tuned and fowling the plugs is normal as well.

as long as you get a re-tune every 6 months and change the plugs every 2 months you should be right with a microtech.

[_Ryan_]

Why is that? Do they just lack an IAT sensor?

[Guilt-Toy]

Why is that? Do they just lack an IAT sensor?

no they have IAT. they just go out of tune all the time. at least when they go out of tune they always go rich not lean so i guess thats why its not so concerning

[bozodos]

N1GTR do you also have working ATTESSA with yours?

Yeah I've unblocked the cat and change plugs when it starts to miss on idle, it also appears to not be running an 02 sensor which I had thought might also have been contributing to it.. my mates tell me to piss it off and get a RB20 ECU + remap or a PowerFC (rather stay MAP based due to AFMs having loads of problems). I'd rather stick with it than stuff around trying to refit something else into it.. really starting to wish I'd bought a stock or near stock car now!

On the other hand, if it's "normal" for it to go rich every 4 months or so, that's not really going to work either, especially if I'm travelling upwards of 400km to go to a tuner! Apparently the ECU also needs to be sent back to Microtech for something to be adjusted for VCT to work as well.

[bloodzkull]

300 to install cam gears?! You dont even have to take the belt off, just the CAS and top cover, slip them in while holding the belt...its not hard.

At the end of the day, if the driveability is as good as, or better than, a factory ECU, is responsive, economical, has no hiccups or flat spots and makes target power for the setup then its a good tune.

i'm not going to go into what i've spent on tunes. however out of the two they have both been completly from scratch (wolf v500-no base map) and have been unbelievably good. first one was going from a power fc, tuned by pitts, to the wolf v500.

now i know which one cost more to tune. but it's worth it.

dialling cam gear properly does take time. people that think the tuner will just adjust to where the last 5 motors have liked them need another tuner. but i guess that's the difference you pay for.

[N1GTR]

N1GTR do you also have working ATTESSA with yours?

Yes