What Would 275rwkw Do To A Standard Clutch?

[usmair]

hey guys...

i have now bought all the goodies i need to make some serious power but i'm still running the standard clutch...

now I know I definetely need to upgrade it at some stage... but its actually fairly new so I was wondering if it could cope with roughly 275rwkw...

What would it be like to drive everyday? and what would happen when I take the car to the drags with the shitty clutch?

Basically what i'm asking is if I can keep using the standard clutch (with 275rwkw) until it starts to wear out or do i need to change it even before I think about putting the new turbo, pfc, injectors etc in...

A decent clutch would only set me back around $500 + install so its not a big deal of cash but i just dont want to throw away my current clutch if it could be used to handle that kind of power...

Just to let you know the car is a series 1 R33 GTS-T

Cheers

Edited March 29, 2009 by usmair

[UWISSH!]

simple.... it will be destroyed

and a decent clutch will cost more than $500

Edited March 29, 2009 by UWISSH!

[usmair]

Slide Performance has the Heavy Duty 5 Puk Button clutch kit for $475...

apparently they are good for 300rwkw... wouldnt that be sufficient???

Edited March 29, 2009 by usmair

[UWISSH!]

had a jim berry clutch in my r33 that made 285kw, cost $1300 plus installation

ur better off gettin a good clutch to start off with, coz i had an exedy heavy duty sports clutch (bout $700 i think it was) in it before i got the jim berry one and it lasted 3 launches at the drags before it shat itself

Edited March 29, 2009 by UWISSH!

[usmair]

lol i c...

gonna have to do some more homework on clutches then...

[R33_NICK]

double the standard output and the standard clutch goes kaput;you can pretty much measure the life span of the standard clutch in minutes when you take it drag racing. get the best clutch you can afford so you dont have to change it when you increase your power later in the future.

[IDO 11S R32]

My GTR runs a single pplate ceramic clutch, just been modded and tuned and now makes 308awkw, 1st dump and the clutch shit it self and slipped, so you can imagine what it would have done to a standard clutch. now im up for at least a twin plate. With that sort of power I would talk to someone in the know though before you make the selection. You can drive around with that power and a standard clutch, just done give it to hard a time, cause it wont last. (As I found out).

Goodluck

[cankas]

With my 34 it only took till 220rwkw b4 the clutch started spinnig hate to think what it would do now cause i have 284rwkw and running an Exedy Hyper Single and it works fantastic and i drive it daily.

[r33cruiser]

u will be absolutely fine mate. i drove mine and it was fine. just be mindful with it. in the end i only blew mine up when i did a burnout . but other than that, dont be stupid and it should last for a little while

[paulr33]

the standard clutch cant keep up with the std turbo and std mods, that is exhaust, intercooler, tune, more boost etc

so even at 180/190rwkw it will slip and eventually fail

the issue with the clutch (any) is they (when they fail) cant handle the torque from the engine

this usually happens when the engine is ramping up on boost, the most torque is typically made then

when it "fails" the engine free revs as its ramping on boost, so it goes 1500rpm, 2000rpm, then slips to 4000rpm

each time its slips its doing damage the flywheel and other components, so making it slip all the time is a bad thing

if you continue to drive with a slipping clitch youll need to machine the flywheel and possibly fix other busted shit

typically a good clutch will be at least $1000 for a mild GTST setup

i got a heavy duty clutch for $1200 for my 190rwkw GTST and its tough as nails

ive known a few guys go for sub $500 clutches with 200rwkw+ and they fry them

you get what you pay for and the clutch, being the single component connecting the engine & drivetrain

its essential that its prefect and strong to handle the load from it

its well known that sub $500 "300rkwkw" rated clutches are junk

[paulr33]

remember, the killowatts mean nothing to a clutch, its the torque from the engine that frys it

if it was me and i was going for over 250rwkw

i would go for the nismo single plate clutch kit (it comes with a lightening flywheel)

failing that, i would go for a nismo twin plate

with the nismo cluthes they follow a premium price but you can be sure

it will fit correctly, mate up and be rated correctly driveability will be the same as std (ie easy and spot on)

if you go for a custom clutch etc you may find driveability sucks

ie: it stalls its ass off each time unless you ride it like a whore

or its mega springy (mega excessive centre sprung) so it bites really sharp

[skylinekid]

remember, the killowatts mean nothing to a clutch, its the torque from the engine that frys it

if it was me and i was going for over 250rwkw

i would go for the nismo single plate clutch kit (it comes with a lightening flywheel)

failing that, i would go for a nismo twin plate

with the nismo cluthes they follow a premium price but you can be sure

it will fit correctly, mate up and be rated correctly driveability will be the same as std (ie easy and spot on)

if you go for a custom clutch etc you may find driveability sucks

ie: it stalls its ass off each time unless you ride it like a whore

or its mega springy (mega excessive centre sprung) so it bites really sharp

i have a HKS gd max twin plate and its the nicest clutch i have ever used... smooth take offs everytime and loves 7k dumps has never slipped at all that was with 265rwkw. was expensive but well worth every penny imo....

[NISMO]

Going through this exact same dilemma right now.

My GTR puts out 276kw on 16psi and any time i had the boost set at 16psi it would literally just free rev.

I mainly drive it around on 12psi, but its even slipping on that now.

So decided to get a new clutch. I've spoken to a lot of people and was originally going to go with "$500, 300kw" clutch, but soon realised that it literally won't last.

I'm just chasing up some final details but looks like I'll be going for a NISMO twin plate. Used, but will have it rebuilt before it goes in. Much cheaper than new. This way, it might cost a bit more now, but at least I'll be doing it properly and more importantly once.