Jump to content
SAU Community

My 26/30 Build - Nearly There

stomper

By stomper,
in Engines & Forced Induction

 Share

Recommended Posts

Sydneykid Grand Master

Sydneykid

Posted
Posted
Jim at CRD never had my car overnight...he simply knows where it has to be. This is what you pay for...experienced operators are worth the money.

I could reach into the car and turn the key...and the engine would fire into life everytime when cold.

Maybe your not as fussy as me, I like my road cars to drive perfectly when cold, winter, summer, desert or snow. Anything less than perfection annoys the hell out of me and I avoid driving the thing. Even with race cars these days I hate ugly running anytime, I'd much rather spend the time getting it right. Running Ethanol just demands that much more time be spent on the overall tune, tuning for power is quick, tuning for niceness takes a lot longer and you can't do it on the dyno.

Cheers

Gary

Swiper the Fox Grand Master

Swiper the Fox

Posted
Posted (edited)
Maybe your not as fussy as me, I like my road cars to drive perfectly when cold, winter, summer, desert or snow. Anything less than perfection annoys the hell out of me and I avoid driving the thing. Even with race cars these days I hate ugly running anytime, I'd much rather spend the time getting it right. Running Ethanol just demands that much more time be spent on the overall tune, tuning for power is quick, tuning for niceness takes a lot longer and you can't do it on the dyno.

Cheers

Gary

Are you suggesting i accept less than perfection? Have you not seen my cars? Would i accept my car running 'ugly'? Are you suggesting CRD or Godzilla or Guilt-Toy do not get it right?

I demand perfection!

Thats whay i use a proper tuner. :(

Yes i agree with one thing above...you are and old fuss-pot.

Edited by DiRTgarage
Sydneykid Grand Master

Sydneykid

Posted
Posted
i also think it comes down to experience as paul suggested - i never had starting issues with XXXX tuning

I refuse to get into a debate about how good or how bad a particular tuner is, it serves no purpose, and everyone has an opinion. Some even have good reasons for their opinions. So, as far as the following is concerned, it wouldn't matter who tuned it, so XXXX it is

Starting is one thing but how does it run when its cold?

Tried it at Bathurst altitude, at 4 in the morning at -5 degrees?

How about Hidden Valley race track in Darwin at 45+ degrees?

Handle power steering, air con and electrical load?

How's the fuel economy?

Are you sure it's as good as it should be?

As a result carrying excess weight in fuel for the race?

Or too many pit stops?

Sticking a car on the chasis dyno for power run or two then saying it is tuned is niave in the extreme, it's less than 10% of what tuning really is.

Cheers

Gary

Marko R1 Grand Master

Marko R1

Posted
Posted

point taken - there are many ways to skin a cat :)

fact is that everyone has good/bad stories to share on all tuners (regardless of experience)

its the classic ford v's holden debate, although they both suck lol

stomper Community Regular

stomper

Posted
  • Author
Posted

Bloody Computers!

Lets sort a few points of order here:

1. Peter at Advan has more years experience than i care to think of - he's built race engines for Mazda, including engine development. He sourced the G4 for it direct from the guy who owns link (personal friend of his in NZ) becuase he had allocated the ones he had in the shop, and Link can't keep up with overall demand. The Ross balancer i bought was missing a couple of screws of the back, so he got "Mr Ross", himself to bring them over (again personal friend). I know this because i have spent many hours talking to him (ever rung Jim Berry??)

2. He built the engine in the car, so there is little point in taking the car elsewhere at this point (if I wanted to).

3. I see the time i invest in the car and in the relationship with my workshop directly pay for themselves. I paid for 6 hours of Dyno time over three days for the full tune - this was in real terms starting at run 31 and finishing at run 134 if you check the Dyno logs. He diagnosed a failing TPS at low throttle/idle, and whilst i am no expert on tuning (as I would save a whole lot of $$), I do know that even though one block can look and read the same mods as another, they are far from equal.

4. I, like others, have poured a huge amount of cash into the engine for this 30/26 build, given all the inherent dangers of tuning to high power and the cost of quality parts, why would i risk a quick and dirty tune on upwards of $20k invested??? For that kind of money, i want someone to work on my car wearing kid gloves, and tucking it up each night in a freaking doona! I fell like i get that.

We all enjoy our cars and what we do to them for different reasons! I may put this one on a track every now and then; I don't fang it up and down my street and smoke the tyres at lights becuase i am tring to get a girlfriend - I do it becuase I am trying to improve on a great piece of engineering and add my own little mark to it; why would i be getting ripped off if I agree to put it in for the time it needs to be done with care and attention.

There are lots of good tuners out there, what makes it different for all of us is how we get on with them and the trust you have when you hand over your keys and walk out of the workshop, to know that it will still be in one piece and not an addition to someones turbine collection in their jar (if you ever read that old post!)

+1 for CRD and +! for all the others listed - I read up on the work they do; but believe me when i say thet I wouldn't take my car anywhere else.

Mike

Marko R1 Grand Master

Marko R1

Posted
Posted

as long as ur happy mike, we've all heard good n bad in most tuners (albeit not crd) lol just 4 laughs :D

im interested to know wat rev limit are on to make 350rwkw?

wats peters thoughts on e85, have u considered this?

MBS206 Grand Master

MBS206

Posted
Posted

I'm with SK and the others...

Takes a few days to get the cold tune and RUN perfect...

Yeah, can get the car to start and idle fun, but getting it to drive off without a cough or stutter... Big difference, getting all the extra loads perfect... They're the master points!

  • 1 month later...

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share
Go to topic listing


  • Similar Content

  • Latest Posts

    • Murray_Calavera
      R33 GTR running -9 with no tune

      By Murray_Calavera · Posted

      I don't understand how this hasn't boiled down to - Upgrade the turbo when you have everything required. ECU, injectors, fuel pump, turbo, etc. Do it all at once.  If you don't have everything required, just enjoy the car as it is and keep saving up your pennies. 
    • Duncan
      R33 GTR running -9 with no tune

      By Duncan · Posted

      Sounds like you've got an interesting adventure ahead here with local support if you have trouble! My guess is that, unboosted, you will be OK with a small upgrade like -9. What will happen is that once the stock ECU sees more airflow than it expects it will add a heap of fuel and pull a heap of timing to be safe because it can't understand how it could get that much air without there being an issue. You will see clouds of black smoke and it won't pull hard through the midrange and top end. So, overall it will be a bit frustrating but should be OK. If you are still nervous set the base timing back 2o through the CAS, but it will be even more sluggish everywhere. As said above through...this is not my guarantee your engine won't be blown into a million pieces, leaving you looking for very hard to find parts A better idea is get a computer with logging ASAP, wire in a wide band O2 sensor and a use remote tuner. I've done multiple cars this way and while it is not as good as a specific tune on a dyno they can get it 90% right. I'd suggest if you can afford an R33 GTR these days you can afford an ECU and tune. And if you can't afford that you sure won't be able to afford the rebuild if it goes bad in the meantime,.  
    • Duncan
      New kid on the block

      By Duncan · Posted

      Yeah it would be nice if someone took the time to put that sort of information together, but there are a lot of variations in looms. I think you are making this way hard for yourself if you just want to get it running....sourcing an SR20 with the right wiring will be a billion times easier than matching the RB loom to an S15 chassis. If you do end up going this way, you just need to trace every wire in the loom with a multimeter, 95% of them will go to a location you can confirm at the ECU.....and then post it up for the next person who needs it  
    • Duncan
      Coolant leak?

      By Duncan · Posted

      Just top it up with water, and keep a general idea of how much you added. It is normal for water to be pushed into and pulled out of the reservoir through the cap, and it should not be more than half full or it will be likely to overflow when hot. Any decent mechanic can do a pressure test of the cooling system to confirm if you have a leak. Keep in mind if it is only leaking a little and when hot it may well evaporate before you see it hit the ground
    • GTSBoy
      Coolant leak?

      By GTSBoy · Posted

      I'd ask the shop what they used and use that. Mixing coolants is sometimes OK, sometimes not, and you have know the details of each coolant to know whether it's a good idea or not.
×
×
  • Create New...