King Springs In My R33 Gtr Vspec

[R33GOD]

i phoned my suspension guy about lowering my car today and he told me there's king springs that fit the r33 gtr. I cant find any model numbers or what to look for.

From my understanding the vspec sits 10mm lower but i want to go an extra 30-40mm lower all round. Which ones do i need? low or super low?

Im gonna keep my stock springs for backup if i get a defect so not worried about that. And not intrested in raising and lowering the car which is y im not going for coilovers. And i am on 20inch wheels so got plenty of clearance from the ground. Plus coilovers arent in my budget.

if anyone would have pics of their gtr's with these springs please post them up also.

thanks

[nisskid]

i wouldnt go lower than lows, especially on standard dampers. they should drop the car by about 20-25mm i think.

personally i think it would be a shame to see someone put super lows in a R33 GTR just to look hektik, GTR's are performance cars, spend the money on a proper suspension setup, a GTR isnt a VN commie. putting superlow kingies in a GTR is like drinking VB at a wedding.

[Munkyb0y]

^ lol

I think king lows go 30mm lower than standard on r33 gtst. i'd assume similar for gtr.

[R33GOD]

well if there as bad as you guys say what are my options?

Like i said im not after a coilover cause im keepin my stock springs ,and my car will still be legal with the 20in wheels

[nisskid]

well if there as bad as you guys say what are my options?

Like i said im not after a coilover cause im keepin my stock springs ,and my car will still be legal with the 20in wheels

[R33GOD]

i dont see a problem?

answer the post as a serious question please and stop posting shit in my thread.

The car is used for street only and wont be used on a track.

[Spunky Munky]

If you want to drop the car by 30mm or more, definitely go Super Lows Kingies as Lows will only drop it by 15-20mm so you won't be able to notice the difference.

There's nothing wrong with King Springs - they are very good if you are only after Street use, however, as the guys said - definitely consider a proper coilcover setup if you want to go track.

[nfi]

Apart from the fact your putting 20 inch tempe rims on a GTR... I think what they are trying to say is your missing the point... Suspension is much more than just the springs... If you just put lowered springs on it the standard shocks will be out its designed window and they also aren't valved for the heavier spring...

So basically with lowered springs and 20in rims you have made your car slower in every way than the a stock one....

People don't put coilovers in so they can go up and down, they put them in so the spring is matched to the shock absorber and its designed to work together so the car handles better....

[MrStabby]

There is a thread by SK about why not to use lowered springs with the standard shocks. A search should find it, but IIRC it damages the shock, the lower you go the more risk. If you're going to lower a lot you really need to get coilovers. A few other things to consider when you a lower;

- You'll need to get adjustable arms or bushes to be able to align the car again after you lower it

- You'll probably loose ride comfort (esp with 20in rims...)

- You'll compromise the handling if you go too low

Also almost coilovers are height adjustable, which means you dont have to be stuck with whatever height lowered springs may give you.

[nisskid]

Apart from the fact your putting 20 inch tempe rims on a GTR... I think what they are trying to say is your missing the point... Suspension is much more than just the springs... If you just put lowered springs on it the standard shocks will be out its designed window and they also aren't valved for the heavier spring...

So basically with lowered springs and 20in rims you have made your car slower in every way than the a stock one....

People don't put coilovers in so they can go up and down, they put them in so the spring is matched to the shock absorber and its designed to work together so the car handles better....

and its one thing to do it to a GTS-t, but a GTR? dont know why ud spend an extra 10-15k for the performance of a GTR if ur just gonna ruin the thing with shitty mods.

[br3ndan]

and its one thing to do it to a GTS-t, but a GTR? dont know why ud spend an extra 10-15k for the performance of a GTR if ur just gonna ruin the thing with shitty mods.

Not even a GTS T deserves that...

a GTS maybe... IF THAT.

[nisskid]

Not even a GTS T deserves that...

a GTS maybe... IF THAT.

yeh agreed.

[R33GOD]

so the stock springs are better than king?

i was after different opinions on springs too. not just king.

tein springs?

[Sigem]

if you replace the springs, replace the shocks as well, you can get a decent setup with shocks and springs that can actually perform surprisingly well, but coilovers are the best way to go

Not Everybody wants the stiff ride that coilovers offer

Edited April 26, 2009 by Sigem

[thrtytwo]

gtr + chorme rims + king springs

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

if you are going to buy springs get RSR...

also... putting 20's esp tempe's on a GTR =

[Omurru]

With a GTR if you lower it too much it will mess with the 4wd control, same goes for different wheel widths back to front, I am not sure of the specific's, have a search around there's plenty of info on it. I'm using custom king springs on older type apexi adjustable coilover shocks. They were on it when I bought the car but the reason the previous owner went to the king springs was because the apexi spring rates were too high. The springs themselves are very good and I haven't had any issues with them. The reasoning behind using shorter shocks with lowered springs is to make sure the shock is operating in it's optimal/correct range. If you use standard shocks with a shorter spring you'll find over time the car will develop a tendancy to bounce around as the shocks prematurley wear.

on a side note, I just put HSD HR coilovers in my 32 and am very happy with the result and at $1600 there not too expensive either.

[nfi]

so the stock springs are better than king?

i was after different opinions on springs too. not just king.

tein springs?

Your missing the point. All springs are quite similar that are used for lowering.. they are all hot wound which is sh*t but apart from that you can't lower the car at all without getting good quality shock absorbers without destroying the handling. No fancy name brand spring is going to fix the problem. The shock is what does most of the work and is also expensive.

Once you add it up you'll realise its cheaper and better just to do it properly and get good quality coilovers. That way the car which actually handle better not worse..

And yes once you lower the car 30-40mm (which is a lot) whether its with coilovers or lowered springs you are compromising the handling of the car even if you use the best quality coilovers. Cars are at a height for a reason. Nissan don't set it really high because they want it to look stupid...

So with your 30-40mm lower you are going to need rear camber arms (or bushes if your tight) so you don't chew out the inside edges of your tyres and also probably toe arms because again, the standard arms can't cope with that much lowering.

[R33GOD]

thx for that guys. think il wait a few more months and go tein coilovers

[nisskid]

With a GTR if you lower it too much it will mess with the 4wd control, same goes for different wheel widths back to front, I am not sure of the specific's, have a search around there's plenty of info on it.