Advanced Driving Course Trackday

[Madaz]

ill go if your paying

[Inline 6]

sure madaz, no looking for my cash back.

whats the other place they were posting about this event? can someone ask on there if anyone wants to go in my place

[typevu]

Luke(heslo), any update on the meeting point and time for the morning before heading to Mallala?

[Madaz]

there may be some confusion about helmets arising from a recent email from Dean at John Bowe - the original promotion for this event was that helmets were not mandatory. i have just spoken with Dean a few minutes ago and he confirms this, but we agreed that you are welcome to use a helmet for the higher speed sessions in the afternoon.

so helmets are not mandatory required equipment, but you can use one if you have one. Dean sent out an email to this effect while i was on the phone just now.

other than that, please read the receipt / Booking Confirmation that he has emailed you and go through the checklist again.

i'll email/PM everyone details on meeting up in the morning if you want to go up to Mallala with a group. any other problems, please let me know.

Luke(heslo), any update on the meeting point and time for the morning before heading to Mallala?

you didnt get PM??

[typevu]

Nope I havent got any PM about it...

[Nightcrawler]

Can someone please email or PM the checklist that was sent out - my main hard drive failed last weke and I lost everything on it .... I don't remember getting a PM either about meeting point/time

[heslo]

Getting on it now boys, will be in touch

[heslo]

Having trouble getting in contact with Kim so I'll make out own meet at City Dismantlers on Main North Rd at 7:15 for leave at 7:30. This will give us ample time to leave and be at Malalla by 8:30 which is when registration starts. Please, please, please be fueled up to go before hand, if not there will be a stop for fuel but just to be safe fill up before hand. If details change (I get in touch with Kim) I'll update my post.

Cheers guys

[V35-2005]

sorry guys. i have been in Melbourne for work since Friday so fell off the grid for a while! i will PM/email the meet details out whilst watching the F1 tonight, but Luke has the right idea already.

cheers - Kim

[heslo]

Good stuff... I look forward to the official info, I'll amend my post with any changes Kim makes

[V35-2005]

Mallala is ~60km from North Terrace via National Highway A1 and usually takes 60min from the city in morning traffic. If you have not been to Mallala before or can't quite remember how to get there, then you're welcome to join the group at the meeting point.

0715 meeting point at City Dismantlers (31 Port Wakefield Rd, Gepps Cross)

0730 depart for Mallala with optional stop at BP Bolivar

0820 arrive at Mallala

0830 registration + compulsory vehicle check (scrutineering) from 0830am. tea & coffee provided

0900 start

1230 lunch provided. fuel may be available at the track.

1600 end of trackday

Participation in meeting up at City Dismantlers is purely optional. If a few of you want to arrange to meet up in a smaller group elsewhere and meet us at the track, then that's fine - as long as you are aware of the distances and travel times. Some of you may want to meet up at Macca's for breakfast along the way - that's cool. If you wish to travel to Mallala by yourself on the day, then that is your perogative - it's just not as fun

If you have to refuel and do those last minute tyre pressure checks, then you can either go 10km up from the initial meet point to the Caltex on the LH side of Pt Wakefield Rd or to the BP on the RH side (corner of Pt Wakefield + Bolivar Rds - be in RH lane for RH turn onto Bolivar Road). We will go past Adelaide International Raceway (AIR) at Virginia/Waterloo Corner. AIR will be on your left. Take the RH turn off to Two Wells / Mallala ~35km out from City Dismantlers.

0.0km set odometer to zero at City Dismantlers

9.4km City Dism to BP Bolivar ~15min (>25min in traffic)

35.0km turn off to Two Wells / Mallala

41.0km BP Bolivar to Mallala ~40min

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50.4km from meeting point to Mallala racetrack.

* We will not wait at the meeting point beyond the set times

* If you are late, you will have to get there solo.

* No exceptions. Not even me - and i'm usually late!

* Keep to the speed limit on your way to the track - the last thing that we want is police attention, speeding fines or defect notices being served to spoil the day.

[Luke_ENR34]

sweet. Will be there. Got a wheel alignment tomorrow night and gotta bleed the brakes again. Then a quick hillzy to make sure its all ok.

[heslo]

Fantastic Kim, cheers for the info and will see you all there!

[V35-2005]

i've emailed almost everyone some extra information. i wasn't able to do a group PM here due to this board's flood control (whatever)

see you all first thing Tuesday morning! make sure that you all get a good night's sleep before the trackday - please don't muck around with your car all night and lose vital sleep.

[writeoff]

So what tyre pressures are people setting? Earlier posts said 26psi. The document from John Bowe says 42-46psi. I understand that tyre pressures will increase as the day goes on. Is anybody taking a generator to make increases to tyre pressure if we set them around 26-28psi but they do not increase to track day levels?

[V35-2005]

So what tyre pressures are people setting? Earlier posts said 26psi. The document from John Bowe says 42-46psi. I understand that tyre pressures will increase as the day goes on. Is anybody taking a generator to make increases to tyre pressure if we set them around 26-28psi but they do not increase to track day levels?

only one post said 26psi.

you missed my reply (post #220) so here it is again:

the instructors recommend that you start with 42-45psi with street tires to stiffen the side walls for cornering - this is Item 1 of your pre-trackday checklist that is part of the course receipt that Dean from John Bowe Driving has emailed ALL of you going.

this also prevents the tire rolling on the rim with hard cornering, but i suspect that many of you have stretched profile tires anyway

i would start with minimum 38psi cold (17"-18" street tires) before you leave home as it will probably rise to 40+ by the time you reach Mallala. it is better to have over inflated tires rather than under inflated as you can always let excess pressure out there (unless you have a portable compressor or pump with you). and dstroy is right - your tire temps won't increase a lot if it is a cold/wet day.

for semi slicks, you would start with 28-30psi cold as these can increase to 34-36psi when hot (after hard cornering, acceleration and braking). you would adjust the pressure for these tires in between laps based on the tire wear across the tread face (need edge to edge wear).

[Luke_ENR34]

I usually stay around 36psi with my kumho's, but they are stretched

also have popped a tyre off the rim before due to running to low pressures.

Edited August 23, 2009 by Luke_ENR34

[DSTROY]

I usually stay around 36psi with my kumho's, but they are stretched

also have popped a tyre off the rim before due to running to low pressures.

Thats what you get with a 235 tyre on a 10 inch rim

Edited August 23, 2009 by DSTROY

[V35-2005]

also have popped a tyre off the rim before due to running to low pressures.

that is EXACTLY why you should higher tyre pressures on the track. it also pays to check your tyre pressures regularly after each session to see what's happening to them.

[writeoff]

Cheers for the response Kim.

I have 275/35/18 Kumho KU36 on 18x10" BBS rims. Think I'll follow your advice and put 38psi in on Monday night.

Gepps Cross by 0715. I live down south and am a night owl. If I didn't have indoor soccer tomorrow night I'd have stayed in a hotel close to Mallala on Monday night. May have to drug myself to fall asleep early and get up by 0530.

Just checked the BoM for Tuesday: Tuesday - A few showers. Windy. Min 10 Max 15. Damn! Wanted a dry track/day.