Jmaac Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Just to let you know from August 1st "car owners will be limited to raising or lowering their suspension by no more than five centimeters" and even this will require an approval certificate from an RTA engineer saying it meets safety standards Currently you dont need approval upto 5cm and can go upto 15cm with proper approval Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/279358-update-on-new-laws-regarding-lowering-cars/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
vidospace Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 So you need to pay for a full engineers certificate if your suspension is lowered at all? How does it work otherwise. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/279358-update-on-new-laws-regarding-lowering-cars/#findComment-4717943 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydneykid Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Typical press release from politician who has absolutely no idea what he is talking about. Michael Daley quite obviously hasn't got a clue. A very confusing press release with conflicting wording and contradictory statements. We will just have to wait for the pubic service bureaucrats to sort out another mess created by their minister. Cheers Gary Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/279358-update-on-new-laws-regarding-lowering-cars/#findComment-4717994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Ryan_ Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 what is standard height for a 32GTST, and what is reccomended? my 320/280 might be a little low bump steers a little too Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/279358-update-on-new-laws-regarding-lowering-cars/#findComment-4717998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacky Dee Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 (edited) so anyone who has already lowered their car up to 5cm will also have to get a cert or risk being fined/defected from Aug 1 ? What the hell... Mine's lowered only 2cm or so from stock and I was planning on dropping it another 2cm when i put new springs in. Any ideas how much the engineers cert for the suspension might cost ?? Edited July 16, 2009 by Delta Force Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/279358-update-on-new-laws-regarding-lowering-cars/#findComment-4718016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydneykid Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Someone will need to tell him that every used car is lower than a brand new car, it's called settling and it happens to every car. The older the car, the more k's the greater the settling. The Recognition Documents for cars that are lodged by their manufacturer with DOTARS (for ADR approval) shows their new height. So his ministerial limo needs approval because it's lower than its recognition document height. Arrest him he's a hoon. Cheers Gary Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/279358-update-on-new-laws-regarding-lowering-cars/#findComment-4718037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 I'm sorry, I didn't know your state was the only one on these forums Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/279358-update-on-new-laws-regarding-lowering-cars/#findComment-4718119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmaac Posted July 16, 2009 Author Share Posted July 16, 2009 Why cant an automotive engineer or similar write these type of laws? Even a little input would be good, politicians have no idea, what a joke. Anyway the article... Permission now needed to lower cars 16 July 2009 NEW laws making it an offence to raise or lower a car's suspension without proper approval is about saving lives, New South Wales Roads Minister Michael Daley says. From August 1, car owners will be limited to raising or lowering their suspension by no more than five centimetres, and all modifications will need approval from Roads and Traffic Authority engineers. Currently, a car can be raised or lowered by up to five centimetres without approval and by up to 15 centimetres with approval. Mr Daley says while drivers may think a lowered car looks "cool" it really is dangerous and any adjustment of more than five centimetres doesn't belong on the road. "I don't want to see young hoons putting their lives or the lives of others at risk, just because they think their car looks better 15 centimetres closer to the ground," Mr Daley said. "Raising or lowering a vehicle's height can put the driver, passengers and other road users at risk. "It can affect handling, braking and safety features such as electronic stability control." Any vehicle that is raised or lowered after August 1 will have to carry a certificate stating that the modifications confirm to safety standard requirements. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/279358-update-on-new-laws-regarding-lowering-cars/#findComment-4718221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacky Dee Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 So wait ... they gave everyone 2 weeks to get an engineers certificate ? I suspect there are tens of thousands of lowered cars, how's that gonna work in 2 weeks? Unless of course this is just another cash grab because they know it's not gonna happen in such a short period of time. If they want everyone to comply, they should make it free of charge to go to the RTA and have an engineer look over it and issue a certificate/defect. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/279358-update-on-new-laws-regarding-lowering-cars/#findComment-4718323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAS KAMU Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 (edited) oh no! ive had enough of car ownership as of now FOR SALE 1990 r32 gtr and 1975 datsun cedric not joking Edited July 16, 2009 by DAS KAMU Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/279358-update-on-new-laws-regarding-lowering-cars/#findComment-4718349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrotristan Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 isnt the RTA for nsw..? jason your gtr is safe Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/279358-update-on-new-laws-regarding-lowering-cars/#findComment-4718378 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAS KAMU Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 isnt the RTA for nsw..?jason your gtr is safe oh........ well let me send my best wishes to n.s.w import owners it will be a sad day for all can we all pause for 1 minute of silence for our fallen brothers. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . thank you and may you all have fond memories of being low Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/279358-update-on-new-laws-regarding-lowering-cars/#findComment-4718402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakes Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 What a load! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/279358-update-on-new-laws-regarding-lowering-cars/#findComment-4718813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
89CAL Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 I may be missing something but how does lowering your car decrease performance to a state where it is dangerous? I mean fair enough if its dragging along the ground but an extra couple of centimeters lower? really? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/279358-update-on-new-laws-regarding-lowering-cars/#findComment-4718926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 "Any vehicle that is raised or lowered after August 1 will have to carry a certificate stating that the modifications confirm to safety standard requirements." So, by interpretation of that statement...cars that have been lowered before that date do not have to carry the certification. Go out and buy a set of adjustable coilovers... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/279358-update-on-new-laws-regarding-lowering-cars/#findComment-4719194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacky Dee Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 wishful thinking ... I'm pretty sure they meant any car not at stock height after 1st August ... not any car that has the mods DONE after 1st Aug.. How on earth would anyone know the date of when you lowered your car ?? They wouldn't, so your interpretation can't be right. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/279358-update-on-new-laws-regarding-lowering-cars/#findComment-4719696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 Invoice from a workshop for the installation? I'm just pointing out that it's incredibly flawed. The fact that so many existing lowered cars would have to go out and search around for / buy some stock height suspension, it's a complete wank. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/279358-update-on-new-laws-regarding-lowering-cars/#findComment-4719824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
heller44 Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 How about every aftermarket suspension for the 4by's.. no more lift kits, thank you come again. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/279358-update-on-new-laws-regarding-lowering-cars/#findComment-4722632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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