wolf 3d's ( not a plug and play system)

[nizmokid]

Ok I am realy pissed at Wolf 3D for selling me this Ecu for my skyline it was a plug and play unit, but that was no where near the case.

Ok I but the unit and hand a work shop fitthe unit and tune it for me ...ok no problems! They fitted the unit ok plugged straight in and and they tuned the unit.

Ok in the tuning process the car was pinging and stuff ok the tunners rang up steve at Wolf and he said that 3 out of ten skylines have this problem. Ok fair enough so he sold us a new trigger switch for the car. Ok to fit this to the car the original unit had to be moderfied (OK NOT A PLUG AND PLAY UNIT NOW) any way this cost me some extra cash and it didn't sort the problem! .........#*@^ !

ok we called wolf again and he said to try wiring in some resisters in the loom .......we said what the #*@^ isn't it a plug and play unit, he then said that 'MIGHT' fix the problem. anyway we said his unit was a not what was stated, and returned it.

he also said it might be the car but the car was fine with the standard computer.

But I had to return the trigger switch back to standard. and the tunner spent 3 days on the car to get it to work + machine work fuel and track time. cost me a pretty penny in tune time and shit.

so to anyone thinking to get one of these WOLF units fitted into there car think again! nothing but problems!

:) shame ,shame, shame.

[Guest RedLineGTR]

Thats a shame i was keen on getting one of those units in the future what model and year is your skyline. Cheers Rob

[nizmokid]

mine is a series 1 R33 gtst 1994, yeah I herd alot of good things about them but they are nothing but trouble with my car anyway.

[whistla]

iv had no problems

plugged in, tuned and on my way...

its been two years now

[Al]

iv had no problems  

plugged in, tuned and on my way...

its been two years now

I second that!

Unit is only as good as the tunner, and if the tunner does not know how to use the Wolf properly, then it's just asking for trouble.

[skylineakt]

Your car wouldn't be an auto by any chance??

[whistla]

Your car wouldn't be an auto by any chance??

Who were you refering to?

Neither Al's or mine are auto for the record.

[nizmokid]

nope manual.......and the main supplyer was the problem,

they couldn't give us a straight answer (bad tech suport), And the tunner use to work for AVO, so I know he knows what he is doing.

oh well u win some, u lose some.

[skylineakt]

I just though that nizmokid was having problem with the Wolf because maybe it was an auto.

There were some problem with the Wolf plugin ecu working with auto Skylines.

[king_kw13]

Is there such a thing as a series V or 8 wolf? are they newer than the one Al and Whistla has?

I was mighty impressed by Al's unit, and was considering one.... hrm, maybe i should stick instead to tried and tested units instead.... Does anyone have an FCon V installed by any chance?

[whistla]

AEM (Wolf) are only up to version 4.55 or something there abouts

[craz0]

I've just bought a V4 Wolf3D plug-in for my R33 GTST, I know it's a V4 Rev5, don't know about V4.55 :confused: It has gone in my Skyline a couple of times and I still haven't got it working properly as yet but I haven't taken it to get tuned in properly yet, my Skyline is a Auto and as far as I know the Wolf's don't have a problem with the Auto's.

My Skyline is Standard other then a Jamex panel filter and the base Map didn't work with that, Steve-sst emailed me a Map and it worked, I just cant get it to idle as yet and I need to have my foot slightly on the accelerator to keep it at idle, when I let my foot of the accelerator it drops to just under 500rpm then conks out. We think the TPS might be a little iffy, have to check it out, haven’t had the time hopefully I’ll get to it soon and the Skyline want see a tune shop until after Christmas.

[skylineakt]

Are you still having problem with the Wolf craz0?

I though you fixed the TPS problem.

Maybe you should of stuck with the Power FC?! hehe

[Al]

This person may be a good mechanic, but if you just ordered the unit and asked someone who hasn't been trained on the unit and doesn't know it's full features, to tune it, you are asking for trouble.

Pinging sounds like a tunning problem not a unit problem.

I would sooner consider the Power FC b4 the Fcon V simply because there are more people who know how to tune them. But i would still buy the wolf b4 either of these, due to the security feature and a few others. The only thing the wolf lacks is a knock sensor, but if it is properly tunned it is not required.

I personally am still behind the Wolf, as i have had no problems that weren't related to tunning. At the start i also had some delemas, but with further tunning these have been eliminated.

Nizmokid if you didn't screw me over earlier this year i would have put my map/tune on a disk and send it to you, to use as a base tune, then get your mechanic to trim the "edges" to suit your car.

You never know when something will come back and bite you on the A$$!

[craz0]

No the problem I had with the Apexi was it wouldn't push the TPS signal to the Auto ECU but the Wolf3D does, I think the TPS just needs to be adjusted.

[Al]

Each car is different, thus needs to be tuned individually. This idle problem also sounds like the tune needs some more fine adjustment. MAP sensors are a little bit harder to get right.

At the start mine also had idle problems, but now it has been all ironed out .

[FIL]

If it's a "Plug and play" ECU, as the wolf is touted as being, then surely the wiring diagrams supplied with the unit should contain all the information needed to install the unit, and the base maps also supplied with the unit should at least be capable of getting the car to idle.... now, of course some tuning is going to be required, quite a lot in fact, but really, a decent ECU requires a tuner who knows how to tune EFI.... A "plug and play" ecu shouldnt really have any hidden features that require a specialist tuner to operate it...

[strutto]

The only thing the wolf lacks is a knock sensor, but if it is properly tunned it is not required.

Without sounding arrogant, why then does the factory ecu with factory tuning require 2 knock sensors?

[nizmokid]

I put it this way if the owner at wolf doesn't have faith in this product and sells it as a plug and play unit and then tells you need to modify and fit a new trigger switch. false advertising!

[PHaT MR30]

Nothings ever plug n play, you should know that you computer tech!

Are you getting Brad to do all your work? He is good, so it wouldn't be him