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and even they get paid stuff all.

lets face it- those members of society who tell us to study hard to get good jobs- wouldnt know squat!

i think the most i have ever seen anyone in education earn is 70k- sorry, i dont seem to see that as something to aspire to

sorry for hijacking your thread inasinman

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If your priority is to own a GTR the you will, I don't care what profession you are in. I started in IT got bored with it and am now a surveyor with a stake in an IT related business. Just don't get into a debit cycle otherwise you will never get anywhere. Life become alot easier when you get out of having to make excessive repayments all the time. Get the GTR!

hey i am an engineer and on 70k at the moment, and i have traveled OS and worked in the bush in QLD most of last year

Inasnt, would you seriously recommed engineering to someone who was after a well paying career???

You missed my point, ive been pretty lucky and done some travelling OS with work. (It is luck, i have friends who are both more intelligent and harder working doing it a lot harder in industry)

If you are earning 70k flying a desk in an engineering firm then you are doing well :D but i suspect the fact that you are in the QLD bush, then allowances are helping to bump up your salary (???)

When on contract working OS or rural NSW with all the allowances i am on stupid money, but im sick of the conditions of such work, and the good old office jobs struggle to pay 55k. So unfortunately my new job requires travel etc because i can only get 50-55k jockying a desk... so just how feral is Melb compared to the jungles of Indoneisa :)

I recommend any trade or profession to anyone as long as they make heap ie. refrigeration tech- dockyard forkies, but don't be a bum and hope it all goes well, u'll find most ppls are truely hard working ppls some just got lucky and some do it through persistant, so u have to decide what u want to do.

I want to be persistantly lucky, is there such a thing?

How about you get a decent car you can keep for a fair while, spend as little as possible, save as much as you can and put your savings into assets (things that make you money, provide cash flow).

This is probably the 2nd quickest way to do it.

The quickest way is to get a loan and buy one. BUT after youve done that, you've been stuck in the car for 5 years (most commonly) paying it off, you've payed off thousands of dollars in interest, so at the end..... The car is 5 years older, its depreciated thousands, you've paid off thousands more than the purchase price, so you are really behind the 8 ball, and have a lot of ground to make up just to get back where you started.

Even if you upgrade 5 years at the end of a 5 year loan, you are only back where you started!

So, in the long run, you are better off being in a strong financial position, than only just being able to get the car, because at the end of the day, one is very different to the other.

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Inasnt, would you seriously recommed engineering to someone who was after a well paying career???  

You missed my point, ive been pretty lucky and done some travelling OS with work. (It is luck, i have friends who are both more intelligent and harder working doing it a lot harder in industry)  

If you are earning 70k flying a desk in an engineering firm then you are doing well :D   but i suspect the fact that you are in the QLD bush, then allowances are helping to bump up your salary (???)

When on contract working OS or rural NSW with all the allowances i am on stupid money, but im sick of the conditions of such work, and the good old office jobs struggle to pay 55k. So unfortunately my new job requires travel etc because i can only get 50-55k jockying a desk... so just how feral is Melb compared to the jungles of Indoneisa :)

The hardest part of engineering i found was the 5 years of uni bs i had to go through. But once u get experience in a particular field, i got experience with gas and hydro powerstations then u can get paid really well. Mech engineering jobs are getting rarer in melbourne and u have no hope getting a job as an electrical engineer in melbourne at the moment, but sydney seems to have alot of jobs in both fields.

I get paid alot because i have to be able to go to work on our sites for prolonged periods, which is fun also because everything is paid for (food,booze,car,hotel etc) so i actually save a few bucks while away from home. It aint really in the bush because there is always a fair sized town about 10-15km away. When i am in the office i get paid the same but have the extra benefits ontop. Couple of guys that came from Sweden and Norway for commissioning were on $150+ per hour but were contractors.

2 places i was working at last year in QLD was only 1.5 hrs away from Cairns, so weekends were also fun.

I did do a bit of work in Tawian and Vietnam and they sucked ass a bit but i didnt really have to ruff it there coz we stayed in westernized hotels but had a long drive to work in the remote areas.

Im envious :D , my last job (just took a 5 month holiday :) ) paid 50k, which i was kindo of happy with, but hours werent always to my liking, but as the project manager on various jobs, when i had to travel my rate was bumped up, and expenses covered...so your right, it has its highlights. $2500/week and expenses paid means you can save some bank roll.

When i was going to France to recieve training on equipment we were buying i ended up spending most of my Indo earnings taking a holiday around France/UK.

I read in today's paper that the average anual salary is now $46k!!!

money comes from investments ..... and unfortunately cars dont make you any money .... in fact they make you poor :D as my dad keeps telling me..... not that it makes any difference - since when can you take a house down the 1/4 mile?

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