1/4 Mile Question:

[adis]

Why bother when he just won't listen seriously !!!

1. Okay, first of all, I asked for opinion on weather or not the exhaust made difference, that's all i was asking in this thread... I never asked anyone to elaborate on MINES ecu. I asked "So, questions is, DOES UNBOLTING EXHAUST BEFORE CAT HELP? Please elaborate on your answers-some people say no, you need compression others say yes, better flow. ?" Where do you see anything about MINES ECU???

2. I know myself that r34 is not as good as FMIC-no shit. Only reason why im running it is because i got diked too many times.

3. I know that tuned NISTUNE is better than MINES ECU-no shit-and ill probably end up getting it in future

4. I also know that in my opinion, MINES ECU is better than stock ECU-more aggressive tune, car is faster on it with good AFRs. My choice to run it, car hasnt blown up, im happy. Stock ecu is not goona get me anything over 200kw nor run anything over 10 psi.

5. I also know im taking a risk running hiflow turbo on Mines ecu. Therefore i WILL eventually upgrade the cooler, but will have to set up stock air box. I will eventually swap Mines ecu for NISTUNE along with injectors and z32, altho this doesnt happen over night and is not cheap either.

Just thought id clear shit up.

[adis]

And yes i was wrong about Fuel pump making the car rich. So how am i not listening "WEST"?

Edited May 13, 2010 by adis

[Messiah]

ok to go back to the start... in theory disconnecitn the exhaust at the cat shouldnt send you backwards as all your doing is removing a restriction.

When it does come to ecu's tho, keep in mind that with a good ecu you can continue to adjust its tune with each and every change you do. so it might be worth doing the ecu first, so you can accommodate any and every mod you do as you do it.

This means that you could potentially avoid having to stump up for injectors afm etc etc all at once. and maybe even get a better more aggressive tune thats suited to your current hardware.

[LANDSCRIBBLE]

I had a similar set up like you 8 years ago,

Small Supra front mount, stock bov, stock turbo, jap exhaust, boost to 12psi and i ran 13.6 at Calder on a slightly wet track with sumitomo 225/45/16 but that's because my 60ft time was 1.999 something.

wow thats pretty good hey. did you take it there often, or just had a knack for it? (controlling wheelspin)

[lookingforboost]

please post 60' and mph for an accurate comparison.

i'll get it out of the car its still in there somewhere because i cant remember what they were it was at WSID on a wednesday

[West]

wow thats pretty good hey. did you take it there often, or just had a knack for it? (controlling wheelspin)

Nah,

Must have been a lucky shot but i was able to back it up with 13.8, 13.9.....etc. I didn't really launch it at all because i tried it once and almost went to the Holden VN next to me .

[West]

And yes i was wrong about Fuel pump making the car rich. So how am i not listening "WEST"?

Man.....

There are legal Intercoolers out there or as a matter of fact they're legal if you're running stock Air intake box, also don't cut holes for the cooler piping.

If you'd like to keep the Mine's ecu, at least get an SAFC to either en-rich or lean your A/F out, make sure it runs abit rich just to be safe. I did have a Jap Chipped ECU, nothing much really beside from letting you rev pass the limit and speed limit (this was fun watching your speedo arm going pass 180 and going back to 0 again)

Check your diff, rip a small burnout (in a control enviroment) to see if you still get 2 decent black lines at least then you'll know its still good.

When you're back at Heathcote, lower your tires pressure to at least 20psi, rip a decent burnt out and see how you go. If that still doesn't help then try to ride the clutch a bit but by doing this you'll cook it in no time.

I reckon with a decent cooler, SAFC tuned with current mods that you've got, you should be able to run at least a 13 flat or high 12.

Good luck and spray your front bar and side skirt to match will ya, if i was a cop, i'd pull you over just for that .

[adis]

Man.....

There are legal Intercoolers out there or as a matter of fact they're legal if you're running stock Air intake box, also don't cut holes for the cooler piping.

If you'd like to keep the Mine's ecu, at least get an SAFC to either en-rich or lean your A/F out, make sure it runs abit rich just to be safe. I did have a Jap Chipped ECU, nothing much really beside from letting you rev pass the limit and speed limit (this was fun watching your speedo arm going pass 180 and going back to 0 again)

Check your diff, rip a small burnout (in a control enviroment) to see if you still get 2 decent black lines at least then you'll know its still good.

When you're back at Heathcote, lower your tires pressure to at least 20psi, rip a decent burnt out and see how you go. If that still doesn't help then try to ride the clutch a bit but by doing this you'll cook it in no time.

I reckon with a decent cooler, SAFC tuned with current mods that you've got, you should be able to run at least a 13 flat or high 12.

Good luck and spray your front bar and side skirt to match will ya, if i was a cop, i'd pull you over just for that .

I knew all that but thanks anyway.

"When you're back at Heathcote, lower your tires pressure to at least 20psi, rip a decent burnt out and see how you go. If that still doesn't help then try to ride the clutch a bit but by doing this you'll cook it in no time."

-im going back this sunday. As for riding my clutch and "cooking it in no time", did it when i went last time, had 9 runs, and its still not cooked, maybe because its heavy duty clutch! Tires are shit, but cant really justify getting new tires yet untill i finish these...hopefully soon. (ill run them at 19 psi)

And as for my bar and sideskirts being different colour, here is the latest picture:

[STATUS]

Trent is WRONG.

gold.

[PM-R33]

Trent you should close down shop. The internetz have spoken.

Edited May 14, 2010 by PM-R33

[bloodsword27]

mate, i went and upgrade to a hks fcon pro and gained 70kw mid range. this was aided bu changing to a free-er flowing pod filter and bigger injectors and a larger front mount. very similar to your setup, ive run a 12.8 on old street tires, 14psi (low boost) and full street trim. cant see why you cant achieve the same if not better

[adis]

gold.

Look man i have MINES ecu and i also have standard ecu.

You have a dyno.

-Why dont we dyno the car and see what she makes with each ecu. And ill bet you she makes more KW on MINES ECU, and that's all i was saying.

[adis]

mate, i went and upgrade to a hks fcon pro and gained 70kw mid range. this was aided bu changing to a free-er flowing pod filter and bigger injectors and a larger front mount. very similar to your setup, ive run a 12.8 on old street tires, 14psi (low boost) and full street trim. cant see why you cant achieve the same if not better

what kind of power did you make on 14psi?

And yes, ill start off by upgrading cooler and get some decent brand tires. than ill do the nistune, and when im ready, ill finally upgrade injectors and z32.

[MasterShake]

Look man i have MINES ecu and i also have standard ecu.

You have a dyno.

-Why dont we dyno the car and see what she makes with each ecu. And ill bet you she makes more KW on MINES ECU, and that's all i was saying.

The guys are saying the standard ecu is better because it actually cares if something is going on under the hood that could kill the car.

[R31Nismoid]

^ 5 pages later and everyone understand this concept bar the OP it would seem...

Making power in overall terms is utterly irrelevant.

Who fken cares if a "MINES" ECU makes more power, doesn't mean it's safe by a long shot.

[s2d4]

Man this guy is awesome, I've been treated with a couple of funny threads!!

Seriously though, what do you do when people are so stubborn, over defensive and so self righteous and sound like a prick to people trying to help him?

What do you do with answers like " I already know" or " no you are wrong" when they are the one asking for help?

Some established fact:

He loved the Mine's ecu and advocated others not to go the ecu+tuner option in his other threads/posts, he even had guys thanking him for providing such a good(cheap, they are cheap for a reason) option.

He has now come around and realised that the ecu+tuner is a better option.

This happened after ~4 pages in this thread. In the mean time, ppl tried to help him even though they obviously have no obligation to do in the first place. He shot them down when he was meant to be grateful, courteous and show people respect.

I think you could benefit from learning some manners when you are asking people to help you, have an open mind otherwise you will never learn anything fast.

Edited May 14, 2010 by s2d4

[jordanlisa69]

Im wondering how running the mines ecu wouldnt be as safe as the standard ecu? With standard turbo, injectors and running no more then 14psi what could go wrong?

And for a cheap option why wouldnt everyone get it for the 1st step? standard ecu not letting me run over 10psi, so mines ecu will. run 12psi which will be 5psi increase on what im running now so for 400 bucks someone tell me how your going to get a cheaper better option then that??

[Ruffels]

one thing ive noticed no one has seemed to mention throughout this thread.... is tires and suspension

im no drag queen, but i do know that shit tyres and stiff coilovers wont get you the figures you desire down the track, no matter how much power you have!

TIRES TIRES TIRES! - get good ones, not only are they gonna get you better times down the strip with better 60' times obtainable, but they are good insurance for daily driving, remember they are the only things holding you onto the road!

also what suspension do you have?

....lastly who the hell is your mechanic? because even my mum can tell you that fuel pumps dont change afr's unless the old one was dying, and she certainly wouldnt recommend putting in the old dying one because you're not happy with the extra richness!

[MasterShake]

Im wondering how running the mines ecu wouldnt be as safe as the standard ecu? With standard turbo, injectors and running no more then 14psi what could go wrong?

And for a cheap option why wouldnt everyone get it for the 1st step? standard ecu not letting me run over 10psi, so mines ecu will. run 12psi which will be 5psi increase on what im running now so for 400 bucks someone tell me how your going to get a cheaper better option then that??

I think the mines ignoring possible high knock levels due to the heat soaked side mount cooler and better than stock turbo.

It's mentioned earlier in the thread.

[adis]

Like i said, i never asked anything about mines ecu so can we please just forget it?

Anyway, ran my car today, best time i ran was 13.35 at 108mph. 60ft was 2.23. keep in mind that i am still running shit tires which i will be replacing very very soon. had a look today, one tire is TRIANGLE, and other is DIAMONDBACK brand? wtf.

Funny enough, my mate ran his 180 sx, best he got was 13.1...ran 13.4 all day. He let me have a go in it, i ran 12.75, 60ft was 1.89. Beginners luck i guess.