Court Apperance

[gdogzgtr]

I was at court today for full contest and had to give evidence. The person wanted to challenge a speeding fine from us following him at 97 in 80 Zone.

My advice is to get legal representation as this person represented himself and was a debacle. Also not a good defense simply to say I wasn't speeding and didn't do it and that's it. He was then in shock when he lost case and verbalized his disgust to magistrate.

Mind you this has dragged out for almost 3 years and been to court on 7 occasions already and he just got the initial fine reinstated.

[geraus]

Hmmm , as long as you have had evidence, everything should be ok, proof of his speeding etc, hope your court case went well. Thanks for the advice

Edited May 20, 2010 by geraus

[BLAKE AuST]

What a great system we have hahahaha

[xALmoN]

How do you contest 97kmh in an 80kmh zone?

Ridiculous, this should have been thrown out ages ago. 3 years, wtf.

[IOWNU]

There can always be mitigating circumstances.....

However, when it comes to speeding fines etc, it is generally a lost cause.

Once we get our crummy legal experience out of the way, a friend of mine and I are considering starting up a Law firm with a focus on traffic infringements, defect/EPA notices etc. Should be fun!

[Curmi]

hell yeah nice...epeicaly for epa

[GTR-N1]

Melodramatics aside - did he just want to play out the time as well Graeme? I mean his speed violation (ie points penalty) is now timed from the date of the offence right?

[MUZT3K]

what a weak defence he had...went in with no evidence..niiice lol

[Birds]

There can always be mitigating circumstances.....

However, when it comes to speeding fines etc, it is generally a lost cause.

Once we get our crummy legal experience out of the way, a friend of mine and I are considering starting up a Law firm with a focus on traffic infringements, defect/EPA notices etc. Should be fun!

DOOOOOOO IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT!

First customer here, although I don't think I can delay my EPA notice that long lol.

I did see a firm the other day that specialised in speeding fines and getting drunk drivers off fines / reduced penalties. They sounded pretty optimistic about it! But atleast you'd have no shortage of clients...let's say...90% of Victorian drivers...

[MUZT3K]

DOOOOOOO IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT!

First customer here, although I don't think I can delay my EPA notice that long lol.

I did see a firm the other day that specialised in speeding fines and getting drunk drivers off fines / reduced penalties. They sounded pretty optimistic about it! But atleast you'd have no shortage of clients...let's say...90% of Import drivers...

thats better.

[32vspec2gtr]

Ha ha nice defence.

He'll probably put it on the pay out scheme and pay it off over the next 10yrs at $1 a month

[IOWNU]

DOOOOOOO IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT!

First customer here, although I don't think I can delay my EPA notice that long lol.

I did see a firm the other day that specialised in speeding fines and getting drunk drivers off fines / reduced penalties. They sounded pretty optimistic about it! But atleast you'd have no shortage of clients...let's say...90% of Victorian drivers...

We are seriously considering it. At this stage, the earliest it would be up and running is during the first few months of 2011, after we have completed our mandatory legal experience.

We are going to start to study the relevant legislation and hopefully we can get something going with SAU backing (and maybe other car clubs will jump onboard too).

Watch this space.

[dan_the_man]

We are seriously considering it. At this stage, the earliest it would be up and running is during the first few months of 2011, after we have completed our mandatory legal experience.

We are going to start to study the relevant legislation and hopefully we can get something going with SAU backing (and maybe other car clubs will jump onboard too).

Watch this space.

Are you a legal firm?

[Birds]

That firm would work well in conjunction with my dream of an independant body to represent the rights of car enthusiasts

Collaboration? Watch this space lol.

thats better.

Well I was referring to speeding fines as everyone speeds, but yes imports are a target

[IOWNU]

Are you a legal firm?

Not at the moment, we just work like peasants for firms haha, being Lawyer n00bs and all.

But once we are able to start our own firm, hopefully it will be geared towards helping out the

car enthusiast community (and motorists in general).

That firm would work well in conjunction with my dream of an independant body to represent the rights of car enthusiasts

Collaboration? Watch this space lol.

haha sounds good!

Hopefully we can get the ball rolling soon enough....

[dan_the_man]

nice

[PIOTREK]

gdogzgtr- just wanted to ask a question (not trying to be smart ass)

Mate of mine was driving and floored it out 60km, with no wheel spin or anything and an unmarked officer pulled him over and said i estimate that you were speeding at 71.35km in 60 zone and issued a fine (based on his knowledge). My firend told me that i was not speeding and the officer did not have him on the radar or any evidence. How can you prove your case in a situation like this, like just the fact that he went into decimals on the speed seems like a complete joke!

Anyways he also didn't have his rear P-plate up so he lost 6 point meaning that he looses his liscence, pretty tough i think for someone that didn't loose any point prior to this inscident.

[gdogzgtr]

I've heard that we can issue fine for speed for estimation but I would NEVER do it. Without Laser/radar or TUPMED (follow) speed I think that magistrate would throw it out. I would definitely contest it and obviously get solicitor. I bet it wouldn't get past contest mention where prosecutor would advise to drop matter.

I think I should study law and become a specialised traffic solicitor. With my knowledge of how we work and learning more laws and precidents I could get awesome results for my clients.

Edited May 21, 2010 by gdogzgtr

[Harey]

I once got speed estimated at 101km/h in an 80 zone, from a car hundreds of metres behind me. I know this because I could see there was noone behind me and once they turned their lights on I could see far back they were. Plus I had just gone through a roundabout so they couldnt even see me line of sight. I couldnt be bothered taking it to court and paying for a solicitor as I wasnt losing my license.

I thought 101km/h was a joke, 71.35 is just ridiculous!

[jezza boii]

That happened to me earlier this week. I got done for doing 70 in a 50 zone but the way they guessed that is because I turned down a side street and by the time they decided to follow I was further down the road than I could have possibly been doing if I was going the speed limit.

But yeah.. I'm just paying it. Unless you can get me out of it Graeme?