First Car

[Darmanin10]

Hey.

Just to get a rough idea on value for money, id like to now what i shoud do

1) Get an R33 GTS keep it stock besides wheels, exhaust and maybe bodykit, and then once off p plates upgrade to a turbo skyline .

2) Get an R33 GTS with RB25DE and modify with good brakes, suspension, tyres etc(everything besides engine). As well as bodykit and exhaust. later onwards once off p's, turbo the engine or drop in a RB26DETT. Leaving me with great setup, But maybe costly??????????

3) Just buy an impreza, MR2, Civic etc. then buy GTR.........

Just want to know if my second option would be a good one and if it would be worth doing.

Thanks

[mad082]

either 1 or 3. option 2 will work out more expensive than the others, and if you upgrade everything on a gts to the spec of a gts-t, it will cost you nearly as much as buying the whole car, where as if you sell the gts and buy a gts-t you'll nearly be able to do it without having to spend more than a few hundred dollars, or not even having to spend anything at all.

[JezR31]

In my opinion i would go with option 1, do intake and exhaust mods and leave it at that, buy some nice rims, good shocks and springs and a nice cd player and speakers. That will get you buy for a few years and you'll still have a car quicker than most other n/a cars.

Then save your money and see where you want to go from there, you might get over skylines or you might want to upgrade to a gtr.

[Galois]

either 1 or 3. option 2 will work out more expensive than the others, and if you upgrade everything on a gts to the spec of a gts-t, it will cost you nearly as much as buying the whole car, where as if you sell the gts and buy a gts-t you'll nearly be able to do it without having to spend more than a few hundred dollars, or not even having to spend anything at all.

agreed (as usual lol), you won't be able to modify a gts to be quicker than say a commodore from the lights. the stock car will be really nice and you may as well save and buy/make a monster when off your p's.

either buy an r33 rb25de gts or something else (mr2, mx5, mx6, sss pulsar, awd v6 magna, supra, 2 seat manual z32, good civic, celica, and a host of others), something that'll do you till you can buy something really fun. just my thoughts anyways

[GTS4WD]

dc2!

[Galois]

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/R3...90-t326544.html

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/19...-2-t301817.html

[Darmanin10]

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/R3...90-t326544.html

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/19...-2-t301817.html

Yeh thanks,

The first one is turbo, although it is a bargain and im in Sydney.

The R34 is good value as well, nice paint job too.

I think R33's are what i should be looking at becaue they are cheaper. There also seems to be 100's of R33 gtst's on carsales and not as many N/A skylines. The turbo gtst are also the same price, which is really annoying knowing you will be paying the same $$$$ without the performance from a turbo.

[God_speed]

i liked my clio 197

Adding my 2c a bit late but like xALmoN I also recommend you consider a Clio...

http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/privat...id=122B3A936F35

UPSIDES

- An '02 Clio sport can be had for under $10K

- 1035kg + 120kW = ~115kw per tonne

- 0-100 in about 7, 7.3 sec

- mine uses about 8.0 litres per hundred (premium unleaded) in city driving, up to 9.0 if driving hard or around 7.5 or less if babying it / highway driving

- front and side airbags

- immobiliser with computer chip in the key (good security)

- puts many heavier cars to shame on the track

- being so light, wear on bushes, tyres, brakes etc is lower than normal

- nice std features - automatic xenons, leather/alcantara, rain sensing wipers, climate control, ABS with EBD, some (like mine) had dealer-fit electric sunroof

- still rides well, so is not exhausting to drive

- bit of a sleeper, but also looks nice and squat on the road

- good support through online forums like ozrenaultsport (http://www.ozrenaultsport.com/)

- so much fun!

DOWNSIDES

- People who know nothing about cars will think it's a girls car

- French build quality

- Driving position a little funny, but you get used to it...

- Look for gearbox oil leaks, a common weak point on the car

Good luck with the purchase!

[SKITTLES]

I own the R33 GTS. I love the car, but there are a couple things you need to be aware of.

65L tank means a full tank could set you back $87.1 (premium @ $1.34), but because you don't fill your tank when it's completely empty, a more realistic price is around $75.

A full tank of petrol can last you a week if you baby it, but I've personally budgeted for two refuels a week.

As a guide, for the past week I have been driving between 1500RPM and 3000RPM, never really hitting over 3000RPM and the fuel has lasted me a good week. I've gotten 500KM out of a tank once, but I drove out to Penrith and back two times in four days, and the petrol was gone at the end of it.

Third party, fire and theft cost me $600-or-so through JustCar, and was a one-off fee I paid for 12 months insurance.

If you can afford to pay for the car, then I would love to see another R33 owner (as long as you didn't ruin the car with tasteless mods). But if you're going by your wishlist without taking into account models etc. my friends ford falcon will smoke any stock R33 GTS and it's probably cost him around $6k all up? That's all well and good, but I love my car

You could also put $10k into a Hyundai Excel build, and that will give you a 900KG car with an Evo engine in it.

Smart cars are also really good. I dare say you would be checked for a turbo, so the 1.3L turbo could be good (not sure on how fast they are though). That's convertible too.

I drove an RX7 once, the older one, it had a full leather interior with the security code to start the ignition. Only problem is they are a lot of maintenance (so I hear). You can get nice ones under $10k, and they're really sporty beasts.

If you don't care about RWD, there are a few nice Hondas out there, like the prelude. The one with the triangular tail lights are prone to rust and other problems, but i hear the generation after it are quite reliable. They're putting a decent KWage out of it, also. Comparable to the GTS.

Iunno, it's your taste mate. I bought the GTS because I love skylines, and it was the best kept one I could find.

[dusty]

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