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any word on price or time to make each one, as by the looks of it they will get bombarded with head lights.

the design looks good enough, anything to get rid of my yellowing plastic

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UPDATE Bit of news from Rich: These are the Hella projectors that will be used: As for the kits, there will be two options to choose from. Kit 1: Carbon fibre bezel, Glass lens, HELLA Projector

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Id advise deleting the spreadsheet of car associated costs... it will become painful one day... lol

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Ok a good update.

Pricing for a rough idea will try to be between $1000-$2000 (this would be without the Bosch HID kit - so option 1 which I listed previously).

Turn around time will be around 1 to 1.5 weeks for a pair of headlights and for this group buy they will do 2-3 pairs at one time.

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Good to hear its progressing...

What exactly is the difference with or without the Bosch HID kit?

I know pretty much nil about HIDs etc, so simple answer is very acceptable...

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hey thanks for the update!

i was looking on the Spinto website and you can get the "glass only" option for the supra (i.e. no insert, no projector)

any chance we could do that here too?

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Yeah I don't see why they wouldn't do that option aswell.

Yep Dave I thought of you regarding the HID's :whistling: I'll just use my kit I have from you for the time being as it is still going strong, maybe one day upgrade to something a bit more higher end.

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umm I know nothing about projectors and HIDs so I have to ask...

there would be a projector lense for low beam and that uses a globe of some sort Im guessin? what sort of globe is that?

and this is all part of the conversion isnt it?

then the HID kit would be for the high beam? is that correct?

and it sounds like any HID kit can be used, so does that mean people would usually buy two HID kits so they can do both low and high beam?

so is the bosch a really good HID kit or would one bought through NYTSKY (Dave) be a good alternative over the bosch that can be part of the headlight conversion...

Please correct me if Im confused...

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From factory our cars have two reflectors in the headlight, both are made for a normal halogen type bulbs. Putting HID bulbs into these is not the best due to the lights focal point not being designed for a HID bulb. This is usually what people talk about with HIDs blinding other drivers from glare. With a bit of adjustment of the headlight you can get them ok though and really it aint that bad. Anyway moving on.

What we shall be doing in this aftermarket headlight is replacing the low beam reflector with a projector made for a HID bulb so we get good light output. You will have a choice of buying the headlight with no HID bulbs or with Bosch HID bulbs which are considered one of the better brands when it comes to HID's.

(To people that don't know anything about HID's a normal halogen bulb is just that, a bulb that gets 12V and a filament creates light. A HID uses a ballast to convert the 12V into a few thousand volts - think of it as a voltage amplifier - which is then put into a xenon filled HID bulb. Read this for more info as I want to try and keep this as simple as I can for everyone to understand. It really is quite amazing how they work.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-intensit...discharge_lamps

For the high beam, a normal halogen bulb will still be used in the factory projector. Most cars from factory do not have HID's in the highbeam unless they have bi-xenon headlights. Bi-xenon headlights is when one projector is used for high and low beam. This is done by a shield covering a section of the projector for low beam and then moving away when high beam is switched on. This is done so that the projector remains switched on at all times. This is due to a safety issue as when you flick a HID on, it takes some time for it to warm up and produce a good light output.

In our Skylines since the low beam is switched off when the high beam is activated, having a HID in the high beam would cause a moment of no/low light when switching from low beam to high beam. There is other reasons aswell and a lot of technical information that can be found in that wiki link or on the net.

Hopefully that explains it a bit more and covers the basics. The purpose of this wasn't so much the whole HID thing but to get a nice headlight replacement with the bonus of having a headlight made for HID's.

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Thanks for the explanation

so normal globe for highbeams....

and a HID kit for lowbeams either bosch or another

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That is correct, there will be two packages, one with just the headlights (so you supply your own HID kit) and the other with the headlights and a high quality low beam Bosch HID kit. Spinto can give more technical details on the HID kit he will be supplying. No doubt it is a lot better than what most of us would be using.

Most people I know don't run HID's in the high beam due to a number of reasons (I edited my post above with more information so have a read of that again since I explain the whole issues with high beam HID's.)

But yes if you went for a HID kit in the high beam aswell you would need two full kits, so 4 bulbs and 4 ballasts (also makes it quite hard to fit everything :whistling:)

EDIT: Currently our headlights use a H1 low beam bulb, however I am not sure if the Bosch projectors that will be used in this aftermarket headlight use a H1 bulb. This means people like myself would still need to change HID bulbs if they are indeed different. I'll find this out so we know.

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Not to my knowledge.

From what i'm aware, they bought a set of series 1 and series 2 headlights and are beginning to measure them up to begin the design.

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Me to man, me to :rofl:

I was staring at my headlights the other day swearing at them that they were going straight to hell....That's a normal thing to do right?

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