C34 Stagea Awd System

[Bronx]

hey all, just trying to wonder what the awd system of the stage is based on? (s2) so r33 setup

is it a mechanical diff or electrical diff?

torsen, viscose etc setup???

from what i know and have been told, it stays in rwd until it feels that the rear is exceeding its torque output and to stop it from slipping it will engage the front.

or is it just clutch driven??? clutch is disengaged until it feels slippage etc and then presses clutch together to connect the front wheels??

Jean

[pipster11]

at the rear of the gearbox is a 4 or 5 row chain that wraps around the exit shaft

the chain runs into the transfer box where it meets the front drive shaft

between the shaft and the chain is a series of clutch packs which are designed to slip al little (a bit like an auto box) when some power is needed up front, the pump adds pressure to the clutch packs and some of the torque/power is transfered to the front wheels

the max power to the rear is 100% and when the clutch packs are fully engaged the torque split is 50:50

[Global_Warmer]

at the rear of the gearbox is a 4 or 5 row chain that wraps around the exit shaft

the chain runs into the transfer box where it meets the front drive shaft

between the shaft and the chain is a series of clutch packs which are designed to slip al little (a bit like an auto box) when some power is needed up front, the pump adds pressure to the clutch packs and some of the torque/power is transfered to the front wheels

the max power to the rear is 100% and when the clutch packs are fully engaged the torque split is 50:50

Thanks for posting this info up. I was also wondering how the drive system works.

Dunno what you'd have to be doing to get 100% driveto the front wheels or 50:50 as you also called it. Even "popping" the clutch at 4000rpm while rolling in 1st gear with my brass button exeedy clutch makes the gauge for the front drive move a lil bit.

[KiwiRS4T]

You can't get more than 50/50. Google Attessa to get more comprehensive explanations. The Stagea has the R33 version.

[Bronx]

aaaah, this is pretty cool. sounds interesting, may google more

[Global_Warmer]

aaaah, this is pretty cool. sounds interesting, may google more

I ran it through Google as well (on between load 200ton trucks at work) and found some great info on it on Wikipedia. There was even a video on it! I will be having an indepth look as soon as I get home.

Its a bloody awesome drivetrain. The Japanese are bloody Clever!

[bubba]

the max power to the rear is 100% and when the clutch packs are fully engaged the torque split is 50:50

Max power while the system is operating normally is 95% to the rear. This is why you can't just pull the fuse to go in to 2WD mode, there is a procedure and it works, 100% RWD.

The system is pretty much based on the R33 GTS4 system, runs 5% preload to the front and splits more torque as it feels it's needed.

[KiwiRS4T]

I ran it through Google as well (on between load 200ton trucks at work)

Another truck driver or a loader driver at a mine? I drive container trucks - mere 45 tonne max!

[pipster11]

anyone got the link to that rwd procedure (the one that you can leave the front driveshaft in)

[Global_Warmer]

Another truck driver or a loader driver at a mine? I drive container trucks - mere 45 tonne max!

Yup. I work in a coal mine. I operate the smallest Digger there which weighs 300ton. Most of the others are 600tonners and the largest 2 are 1200tonners... Those babys can dump 100tons of dirt on a truck in one scoop!

[zei20l]

hmmm giant lego trucks and diggers

[bubba]

anyone got the link to that rwd procedure (the one that you can leave the front driveshaft in)

I have posted it up a number of times...

But here goes again..

Locate the "air bleed" wire behind the drivers kick panel, it's a plug with a single wire either side (usually green socket, white plug).

Disconnect it.

Start car. As key comes back to the ON position, within 10 seconds, depress brake pedal 5 times, 4WD light will start flashing to indicate you are in 2WD mode.

To go back to 4WD mode, turn car off, reconnect plug and off you go.

I have hooked mine to a switch in the centre console.

[Bronx]

wow, i tried that, and damn, car pulls a bit harder, but i guess now i will need a new clutch alot sooner

[bubba]

wow, i tried that, and damn, car pulls a bit harder, but i guess now i will need a new clutch alot sooner

New clutch??

[Bronx]

yeah, when i feel a bit rowdy, some clutch dumping for the wheel spinning is needed.

[bubba]

Fair call, but doing that in 2WD will help the clutch last longer than doing it in 4WD

Me, I need a bigger stall so it will spin up earlier

[mattye]

Could this do damage?? Ie. To the transfer case etc.

[bubba]

No, well it hasn't damaged mine yet.

This is the factory prescribed procedure to put the system in 2WD mode.

It is not the same as just pulling the fuse.

[sturb25]

No, well it hasn't damaged mine yet.

This is the factory prescribed procedure to put the system in 2WD mode.

It is not the same as just pulling the fuse.

Is urs a manual or auto?

[bubba]

Auto