Police Watch Car Clubs

[NickR33]

I wonder if biker clubs get pulled over and harassed... I don't reckon most cops would have the balls... I'm not talking about those clubs with a bunch of fat middle aged guys on Harleys I mean real MC's

[R31Nismoid]

would the issue not be them actually catching up to em? lol.

[htial]

As far as I'm concerned, if no one got charged over it, nothing happened and the rest is just hype / speculation.

To empasise the danger of the issue. Because all Skyline drivers are dangerous, Terry. And it's serious business if you're travelling in a convoy. Convoy? No, a gang! That's more like it. You can't drive your car on the road, that's...why that's...illegal! I'm sure of it. What? No laws against doing that? Well, I'll just find an arbitrary law that you and 99% of people on the road are breaking everyday, that'll teach you something. Now get out of our suburb, we don't want you buying petrol from our service stations and food from our local stores.

We might as well behave like the 1%ers they're making us out to be and change the club name to SAU MC Vic... ...and make up some 1% diamond stickers for our cars...

[NickR33]

WTF are you on about Ash... I never see bikes speeding

SAUMC... love it!... I want a leather cut and a patch stat

[htial]

WTF are you on about Ash... I never see bikes speeding

SAUMC... love it!... I want a leather cut and a patch stat

We'd only need to ad a "Sargent at Arms" to the Committee and we'll be set...

[xALmoN]

MC is?

[NickR33]

motorcycle club

[htial]

MC is?

motorcycle club

Sorry... ...thought everyone would know what I meant...

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

when we are pulled over for nothing other than driving an import, some police officers ( usually the older ones) are actually quite often friendly and actually pleased to see responsible driving.

The real sad thing is that these good, experienced police officers are being slowly culled by simon overland and his cronies. The police force is not run in the same manner these days and this influences what "crimes" your average joe copper is encouraged to enforce.

road laws in this state were revised and are now a guarenteed result for the police statistics.

you are guilty until proven innocent, and everyone knows that a cop can now give any car an EPA notice etc with no proof and little effort on his/her behalf, which is costly to the owner, and can not be defeated by going to court. hence not many people will take the matter any further

for every car that is pulled over, it's another "criminal" that has been "stopped."

whereas if you catch an ice addict beating and robbing an innocent person at a train station, a soft judge will likely give them a no conviction bond, and this results in an arrest statistic, without positive revenue or result.

so if you want to stay in your bosses good books, then pulling over a bunch of skylines is a great way to do this.

this is the SOLE reason we have constant initiatives on hoons, seat belts, dash board obstructions, talking on mobile phones, etc etc etc. it has nothing to do with protecting the public or savinf lives.

due to the way the laws are written this means that an initiative on hoons will result in a 99% conviction rate, whereas an initiative on bashings will result in a 3% conviction rate. (clearly these figures are not accurate)

it's solely so the STATISTICS look better and the guy that thought up the initiative will get a promotion

it's a sad state of affairs.

[Astro Bear]

Driving an illegally modified Skyline is a victimless crime, just like punching someone in the dark.

[dezz]

Well the officer told them if they were to leave - nobody would be defected or EPA'd.

Turns out that was a lie and people are now getting EPA's in the mail - which is a no-proof based defect. Bit pathetic.

I've been informed however that my response will be published on 8th March.

Should be good

As good as your response may feel, sadly no-one gives a f**k. The article is what their target demographic want to read...Hearing a reply from the motoring enthusiast community is not, and will appeal to no one but that very community.

[R31Nismoid]

Indeed I know it will mostly fall on deaf ears as the community has been so perplexed by the media sensationalism that is "HOONS" over the past 18 months.

The "longer" version which is apparently making it to print is a bit better and more detailed.

I had to chop around 300 words out.

The site said it had a "1200" character limit, but it wasn't 1200 LOL. MS Word said i was down to around 800 IIRC.

Although that said, i do read a bit of "letters to editor" in some papers in response to articles written.

Even if you do not agree neccesarily, a well worded reply at leasts get people thinking.

No doubt the paper will also make the Officer aware of the reply. Even if he reads it, that is enough for me.

It would appear he might not be as open minded as other officers that we all know, but you cannot do much about that.

I don't expect him to change his view or suddenly step back and go "Well hey, perhaps I did go a step too far". I mean given the media, his management, the Gov't etc etc - he is forced to be over zealous from the start almost as if it were a brainwashing.

I know at the end of the day SAU-Vic is doing the right thing most of the time in the Import world when you compare to a lot of other groups/individuals around the place that really are giving us a bad name.

[eightsixboy]

I cant believe they can give you a no proof defect and expect you to pay for any tests or whatever even if your car passes an epa test. This happened to a mate at work and it's seriously bulls**t.

[teK--]

“We’ll be keeping an eye out for large convoys of motorists,” Sgt Rust said, “especially with recent hoon activity at Mt Donna Buang and the Reefton Spur.”

If I'm not mistaken they are probably referring to the bogans who go to those large carparks on the way up to Mt Donna Buang in their beaten up Utes, Falcodores, and 4WD and do donuts. We saw a whole gang of them the last time we were there in November when it was snowing.

[R31Nismoid]

That's Victoria for you.

The place to get a finger up the arse - courtesty of Steve Bracks & the media.

[dezz]

Link to your reply?

[dezz]

never mind, found it

[DAS KAMU]

it's just pathetic. really, there is no other way to describe it.

if any one has seen "the wire" then they will understand why this is happening

please explain this wire thing

[shanusr33]

Hey i'll share my side of the story... even before the event began, I asked my mate if he brought the KY. I just had that feeling!

So there was 16 of us in total at the original meet point, not all skylines. We got some great photos, meet some new members, had a good time hanging out checking out each others cars. The usual stuff, drooling etc...

As we took off I was near the leader, but my passenger was chatting to somebody on the CB radio at the very back. Somewhere on Warburton Hwy I slowed down to let everybody pass me and so I could count cars and then hang back with my pal who was not in a skyline. At this stage I realised we had lost a few members on the way who got held up at traffic lights etc. We were approaching Wesburn on the highway in an 80 zone 3 lanes (2 our side, 1 opposite), and I was on the outside lane and my mate was on the inside. My passenger was on the CB and I didn't even notice the highway patrol car, but then my mates passenger radio'd me through saying he saw the police go by and doing a u-turn behind us, so I pulled in front of my mate after I finished passing him in the overtaking lane as he didn't mind taking up the tail.

As we approached Wesburn the cop was tailing me closely, but then shot off to the left, and i said to my passenger "what's the bet he called in a road block up ahead?"

Anyways, if you google map Wesburn you can see Lowes Road. My bet was he use the back streets and got ahead of us to set up the roadblock, because while chatting to him he said he was coming opposite us and saw us, so it must have been the same bloke.

Anyways, after he spent time with each driver it was my turn. Rego and License number was written down on his clipboard like everyone else. I tried to chat to him and show him my whole car and explain the work put it to keep it legal, but by the time he got to me at the end, car #11, i think he had enough. He didn't say anything except asked me if VicRoads knows about my rear seats changing the car to a two seat vehicle, but as per their guidelines I don't have to do anything about it. I explained this to him, told him I would find the documentation, and then he walked away.

That's my story...

We all dispersed and I drove home

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geez, I just re-read it, i don't have a point really. LOLZ!! I just told a boring story, sorry

[R TUNE]

Even tho thier is no real point to your thread mate, it's still good to hear what accerly went on from someone who was at the scene.

I would sugest another cruise (SAU offical), start in the early everning when people are around, and see what happens. This would show people that not all skylines are hoon's and do drive properly, even still take a video camera next time and film the cruise.