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You're just comparing the engines. You forget they happened to put them into an outright oil-tanker of a car.

As previously mentioned, the R8 is not a bad area to set the bar at. The VX runs what, 13-flat? Easily achievable in a mildly modified Skyline.

flat 13??? thats being generous!!! ive seen brand new R8s doing 13flat, or 13.5 at the drags, and the skylines with HKS garretts ( not massive turbos, probably like gtrs) doing mid 13's

with a standard turbo i just cant see it going hard enough to beat a decent v8, even with over 200kws and a highflow ive been beaten by a car length by that VX R8, :rant: , and thats both with a rolling start not a wheel spinning launch

flat 13??? thats being generous!!! ive seen brand new R8s doing 13flat, or 13.5 at the drags, and the skylines with HKS garretts ( not massive turbos, probably like gtrs) doing mid 13's

with a standard turbo i just cant see it going hard enough to beat a decent v8, even with over 200kws and a highflow ive been beaten by a car length by that VX R8, :rant: , and thats both with a rolling start not a wheel spinning launch

Then they haven't a clue how to drive or they didn't set their car up properly.

A Skyline will run mid-13's with stock ecu, stock turbo, and stock intercooler. As has been seen on here.

Then they haven't a clue how to drive or they didn't set their car up properly.

A Skyline will run mid-13's with stock ecu, stock turbo, and stock intercooler. As has been seen on here.

really? i was of the understanding that a gtr did 13 flat, so a gtst should be behind a bit, i did 13.8 with a neck jarring take off at the drags 200kw's and thats not enough to hose a R8 off

dont think theres much wrong with my car.. or my take off and gear changes, 175psi compression and 12psi at the time...

dont think a stocker would better that, but i must be wrong...

i could line up a few low budget v8's that run 10-11sec...

+1 can easily agree there, cause there nasty biatches lol :rant: , need a GTR to kick there ass :spank: hahah

yeah!!!!!!!!! all good fun though ( on the dragstrip though!! not on road !!) :ph34r: )

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i did 13.8 with a neck jarring take off at the drags 200kw's and thats not enough to hose a R8 off

and there it is.. Try take off smooth, then ride the torque/power curve and you should get better times

trick is to let the car do what it wants to do, not force it to do what you think it should do.

Or to quote Running on Empty again

"your puttin on the agony, but your missing all the style kid"

love that movie :laugh:

If you want a cheap 10, get a 900kg mazda with a 300kw turbo rotary, plenty getting around for ~$5k, just need some slicks and you'll do it, really want a cage though, those things are tin cans.

You want power on a budget then a Mazda is where its at. My old 13BT R100 ran a 12.4 at 107 on Simex street tyres. My favourite pic of the car had the front wheel 3 inches off the ground on launch. The car was only running 10psi and its best power figure i saw was 198hp atw's. Cant ask for much better performance on a budget than that. The whole car owed me about $25k back then and it was an immaculate car with leatgher interior, Autometer dash, Simmons etc Was nice enough to make a few magazines back in the day

A mate of mine has an 808 race car that runs 9.90's for about $25k fully teched and ready to race :D

If you want a cheap 10, get a 900kg mazda with a 300kw turbo rotary, plenty getting around for ~$5k, just need some slicks and you'll do it, really want a cage though, those things are tin cans.

find me one 300kw rotary mazda for under 5k Rolls..I bet you cant..

i dont know where you guys get your info from but Rotarys are ridiculously expensive to rebuild and maintain.in fact the only good thing about them is they are fast and light everything else about them sux..

An LS engine with a big single in an ol torana or early commodore will do low 10s and possibly 9s and can be built for 10k...in fact you could build a 10sec r33 skyline for 10k these days if your smart..

Does anyone here realise a 200kw S13 with slicks will quite easily run a 12 flat?

Anyone else realise Simon ran 11 flat with his ebay special setup? (no discredit at all to my fav car of SAU)

1700kg Soarer with factory twins and stall converter running low 11s?

Just coz the average Joe with a skyline cant drive it, doesnt mean V8s rule the land. A big over powered motor in a big heavy car, its not hard to put the power down and wind out some gears.

Learn how to drive you pussies.

Does anyone here realise a 200kw S13 with slicks will quite easily run a 12 flat?

Anyone else realise Simon ran 11 flat with his ebay special setup? (no discredit at all to my fav car of SAU)

1700kg Soarer with factory twins and stall converter running low 11s?

Just coz the average Joe with a skyline cant drive it, doesnt mean V8s rule the land. A big over powered motor in a big heavy car, its not hard to put the power down and wind out some gears.

Learn how to drive you pussies.

This.

haha bang for buck on the streets v8s will always rule the lands ..they just work....

Doesnt mean you cant beat them now and then for kicks though ....lol

Streets have corners :P

Does anyone here realise a 200kw S13 with slicks will quite easily run a 12 flat?

Do it. 12flat or faster, Right now :P

[Anyone else realise Simon ran 11 flat with his ebay special setup? (no discredit at all to my fav car of SAU)

That wasn't $1000....

1700kg Soarer with factory twins and stall converter running low 11s?

I suspect there is a lot more to that story, and definitely not a general rule of how they go

Just coz the average Joe with a skyline cant drive it, doesnt mean V8s rule the land. A big over powered motor in a big heavy car, its not hard to put the power down and wind out some gears.

Learn how to drive you pussies.

Obviously going by averages the Commodores are quicker at the drags, there will be examples of particularly quick Skylines and the same goes for Commodores. One of my mates has a Commodore which he did 12.9 in full street trim with stock exhaust etc, spent a few grand and has added another ~40% to his initial power figure - for all intents and purposes its still a fairly mildly modified car and I am absolutely certain its substantially quicker than my car in all respects when it had its GT3076R on it.

There is no replacement for displacement folks, your best bet for minimal outlay is get sticky tyres and a bit of NOS and get it tuned like that - 2RISMO style. 11s on stock turbo ftw.

Bunch of pushrod bashers lol. :domokun:

Lith, when I have my heavy prick of an S14 in a few weeks I'll make some plans to go run you that 12 flat :P

To be honnest, the 12 flat S13 I am basing my comment on was actually a factory standard CA18 long motor with regular bolt on bits which was actually last dynod 186rwkw. No I dont have the time slip, no I dont expect you to surrender and agree. You know me well enough to know I dont make things up, so be it.

Yes V8s are fast, no they are not the ants pants.

find me one 300kw rotary mazda for under 5k Rolls..I bet you cant..

i dont know where you guys get your info from but Rotarys are ridiculously expensive to rebuild and maintain.in fact the only good thing about them is they are fast and light everything else about them sux..

An LS engine with a big single in an ol torana or early commodore will do low 10s and possibly 9s and can be built for 10k...in fact you could build a 10sec r33 skyline for 10k these days if your smart..

How ill informed you are.... Who ever tells you that they break seals blah blah blah has obviously cut corners or never owned one. I have had numerous rotor's and only those that werent set up properly had issues. Mate has a car that gets its ass flogged every time it gets taken out and it has been around for years!!!! Makes 450rwhp though 3 mufflers so its no slouch either. Its so quiet it would just about pass an EPA inspection and it still makes the power so even the old stories of them needing to be noisy is all shit, you just have to build them properly. They would honestly cost no more to maintain than any modified Skyline

If i can get a 13BT supplied and rebuilt for $6k i am doing pretty well and your all shopping at the wrong workshops. This includes an imported 13BT which has been stripped and inspected - if the engine is crap it gets replaced till good parts are found, PTS seals, bridgeporting, the rest of the seals consist of a full Mazda seal kit. I obviously have the rest of the anciliaries off the import motor to use so no need to buy much more than a new clutch, turbo and manifold should i wish to upgrade them. As i said in a previous post, i know a guy who has built a 9 second Mazda for no more than $25k. Thats cost of the car, decent paint, nosecone change from an 808 front, full ANDRA tech cage, 9 inch, top loader blah blah blah

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