GTR-N1 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 My concern about taking sugar (= simple carbo) is purely based on the premise that glucose/sucrose, alcohol, recreational drugs, anaesthetics and paints work against the liver's capacity to manufacture precursor vitamins and amino acids. Berocca used to contain heaps of sugar > shifted to 951 & 950 as many manufacturers of confectionery have > risky (health) business in the long term. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/372411-multi-vitamins/page/3/#findComment-5943765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickR33 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 yeah totally agree but sugar has gotten a bad rap, yes our diets are probably too high in it but I'd rather raw sugar in my diet than carcinogens I guess it looks good on the pack to say sugar free I wish they'd just leave the sweeteners out of it and leave it up to the consumer to add Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/372411-multi-vitamins/page/3/#findComment-5943982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTR-N1 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Stevia (aka Sweet Leaf of Paraguay) is the ideal alternative. Maybe one should start a plantation! Stevia:- * natural sweetener * reduces insulin resistance * acts on the satiety centre of the brain to induce the feeling of fullness Con = slight aftertaste - but not unpleasant to me personally Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/372411-multi-vitamins/page/3/#findComment-5943998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezz Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 How much better (if at all) is raw sugar VS white sugar? I switched a while back and it wasn't an issue as far as taste goes. Granted I only drunk coffee maybe once a week and the odd weetbix breakfast with some sugar, but still no taste issue Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/372411-multi-vitamins/page/3/#findComment-5944280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R31Nismoid Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 You use sugar on weetbix? I find they are sweet enough if having with milk given there is sugar in both to start off with Terry - is there a good "all in one" multi-vitamin on the market? Obviously it wont cover everything, but surely there must be something reasonable out there? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/372411-multi-vitamins/page/3/#findComment-5944467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezz Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Yes I do. Hate weetbix without it. I also microwave them in the milk to make them soggy (not so much that they lose their shape though, 1:20 on my mums microwave does the trick) But most mornings i eat oats anyway. Weetbix/sultana bran is when I'm lazy or short on time And I take swisse ultivite. Don't know if it's the best on the market but it makes my piss neon green so it's all good Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/372411-multi-vitamins/page/3/#findComment-5944561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R31Nismoid Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Oats/Milk? haha ye gotta love odd colours when passing through exccess input like that Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/372411-multi-vitamins/page/3/#findComment-5944631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezz Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Oats/Milk? Yes, I do have them with milk. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/372411-multi-vitamins/page/3/#findComment-5944649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad082 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 i sugar the hell out of weetbix. has to be raw sugar though. don't like white sugar on them. same goes for in tea. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/372411-multi-vitamins/page/3/#findComment-5944653 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTR-N1 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 You use sugar on weetbix? I find they are sweet enough if having with milk given there is sugar in both to start off with Terry - is there a good "all in one" multi-vitamin on the market? Obviously it wont cover everything, but surely there must be something reasonable out there? For guys who physically work out Ash, I'd use Tresos-B with Selenium. I used to think that raw sugar was better than white - but now with its additives, they're probably just as bad as each other; but nowhere near as bad as 951 and 950 (aspartame & acesulphame). On porridge, if not Stevia, then pure maple syrup (eg Camp) has less glucose than even honey. Honey can be healing on the gut, especially Manuka honey. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/372411-multi-vitamins/page/3/#findComment-5945052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezz Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 I put a bit of honey on my oats to make them palatable. What's this tresos-b stuff and where would one get it? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/372411-multi-vitamins/page/3/#findComment-5945059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vspecIInur Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Easy for you guys to have sugar. Mr diabetic here has to switch to the cancerous stuff as an alternative. But now Terry has mentioned Stevia which I'm going to give a shot at. If it means better than Splenda/Equal..well that's my permanent switch. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/372411-multi-vitamins/page/3/#findComment-5945082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTR-N1 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Tresos-B + Selenium is bought from health food shops; made by Eagle. Stress B Forte is the same but Aussie. Stevia is from health food shops too. Splenda is a synthetic sugar called sucralose which doesn't seem to have any red flags against it so far. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/372411-multi-vitamins/page/3/#findComment-5945149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vspecIInur Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Hmm very interesting. I knew equal was always the baddie but I assumed Splenda would be in a similar boat. I will also check out Tresos-B+selenium; never heard of it but this had given me some broad options as I basically have 30g of carbs(mono/di/starchy) per day and rest come from green veges (fibrous carbs & dietary fib). Might as well do the keto diet lol. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/372411-multi-vitamins/page/3/#findComment-5945153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM-R33 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Yeah i'll check it out aswell to replace my centrum Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/372411-multi-vitamins/page/3/#findComment-5945166 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickR33 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 For guys who physically work out Ash, I'd use Tresos-B with Selenium. I used to think that raw sugar was better than white - but now with its additives, they're probably just as bad as each other; but nowhere near as bad as 951 and 950 (aspartame & acesulphame). On porridge, if not Stevia, then pure maple syrup (eg Camp) has less glucose than even honey. Honey can be healing on the gut, especially Manuka honey. good replies thanks Terry, I think I'll check out your recommended multi I looove maple syrup but I'd go broke eating it all the time... I don't have a sweet tooth though, can't think of anything I sweeten on a daily basis... I eat eggs on toast for breaky these days, got it down to a 5min process... even with baked beans on gym days:) Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/372411-multi-vitamins/page/3/#findComment-5945324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz305 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Yes I do. Hate weetbix without it. I also microwave them in the milk to make them soggy (not so much that they lose their shape though, 1:20 on my mums microwave does the trick) But most mornings i eat oats anyway. Weetbix/sultana bran is when I'm lazy or short on time And I take swisse ultivite. Don't know if it's the best on the market but it makes my piss neon green so it's all good same here, oats and milk nearly every day... If you have time issues in the morning heres something u can try.. put oats milk milo (even honey too if u want) in a blender and blend the shit out of it for about a minute or so.... they u can have a good breaky and just neck it before u run out the door... thats what i do most morning haha... oats keeps u feeling more "full" i think aswell... plus lots of energy for weights.... i take swisse aswell... never tried any others but.. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/372411-multi-vitamins/page/3/#findComment-5945371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trozzle Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 I never have sugar itself, the only sugar I'll consume as an added sweetener (knowingly) will come from the chocolate in my morning Mocha, or from the honey I put on my weet-bix/oats. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/372411-multi-vitamins/page/3/#findComment-5945466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezz Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 same here, oats and milk nearly every day... If you have time issues in the morning heres something u can try.. put oats milk milo (even honey too if u want) in a blender and blend the shit out of it for about a minute or so.... Was doing that a while back...They don't blend fine enough to drink like a normal drink, but a few chews with every sip got em down Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/372411-multi-vitamins/page/3/#findComment-5945530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz305 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Was doing that a while back...They don't blend fine enough to drink like a normal drink, but a few chews with every sip got em down yer it can turn out more like a chewy thick shake lol.... if u blend it longer again and vary the speeds i think u can get it fairly fine though.. either way its much quicker than actually eating them as porrige i think.. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/372411-multi-vitamins/page/3/#findComment-5945671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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