Identify R34 Gtr N1 ?

[AliasJohn]

Here's my story: I've very recently imported an R34 GTR V-Spec from Japan. After finally receiving it, the garage and I have discovered that is in fact an N1, and as you all have a depth of knowledge here, you know there are many subtle differences that give it away. It seems the seller in Japan didn't know what he had, and nor did I when I bought it, so effectively I happened upon an N1 with under 10,000km at a V-Spec price. Nissan's database verifies N1.

Now my Question to all those with GTR wisdom here. Did the N1 come with a specially fitted build plate? (eg. 3 of 45) If so, where would it be? Mine does not appear to have this.

Secondly, who could one approach for historical confirmation of it's build number of the 45 made? Nissan Australia cannot help here.

Help is appreciated fellas, thanks.

[Iron Chef]

I'll soon tell you - send me the chassis number, PM it if you prefer. There's no build plate identifying it. The build code in FAST will have --L-- for the last 5 digits.

Actually send me the chassis number anyway - a mate and I are keeping a register of all N1s.

[Alkatraz]

Hey john,

I was picking up my car from service the other day and was told your story about the N1, Matt showed me the gift that you gave them. You are one lucky guy if it is in fact an N1. I dont know much about Skylines, only recent bought my first one so I cant help you with your question, sorry. Good luck to you and if you do get the proof that you are after, dont go putting 50,000km on the thing, either wrap it up or sell it. You will probably be wiping $100 off its value for every km you drive.

I dont know exactly what it is worth, but I know that I could not have it in my driveway and not drive it, so maybe you should consider taking them up on their offer to swap for the Mazzerati they have on the lot.

[AliasJohn]

Iron Chef, yes the model number does indeed have the --L-- after it, chassis number pm'd, thanks.

Alkatraz, thanks mate, and yes I agree with protecting the car's mileage. I must reconsider now what do do with a car that was to be a daily driver.

[AliasJohn]

Oh, and it was the F360 Modena that Matt joked about offering in exchange.

[Iron Chef]

John, you have the exact same problem as me! Mine has 25,000-odd km on it and has been doing less than 1000km a year since I bought it. Alkatraz is indeed correct - for some reason, Japanese locals haven't really twigged to the rarity/collectability of the N1s, and they've been disappearing out of the country at relatively bargain prices.

Yours is the second V-Spec N1 I know of in the country, there's actually a third on its way (see the link in my sig) too. There are also 3 V Spec II N1s (of only 18 built) in Australia too, so we certainly have our fair share of R34 N1s.

[rehab2010]

John, you have the exact same problem as me! Mine has 25,000-odd km on it and has been doing less than 1000km a year since I bought it. Alkatraz is indeed correct - for some reason, Japanese locals haven't really twigged to the rarity/collectability of the N1s, and they've been disappearing out of the country at relatively bargain prices.

Yours is the second V-Spec N1 I know of in the country, there's actually a third on its way (see the link in my sig) too. There are also 3 V Spec II N1s (of only 18 built) in Australia too, so we certainly have our fair share of R34 N1s.

So they built 45 V-Spec N1's and 18 V-Spec II N1's - is that correct, or is it the other way around, since I have this book that says they actually made 45 V-Spec II N1's.

Pics please

[Iron Chef]

The book is wrong - There were 45 V-Spec N1s built right from 1999 when the BNR34 was first releasted, although from the chassis numbers we've uncovered so far, they weren't built in one consecutive run. 12 were track-only (for N1 racing obviously), the rest were mostly sold to workshops and some private buyers. The Mines R34 was one that was an N1 base car, and TRIAL Osaka had an N1 at one point too. Of the 33 road-going cars, many of them were later sent back to the track for racing duties, so at a rough guess only half of them still exist.

The V Spec II N1s were not a set run, they were built to special order once they had batches of at least three. Common consensus was that there were less than 20 built, and a figure of 18 has been mentioned in a couple of Japanese encyclopedia-style R34 GT-R books I've got.

[(OO)SKYLINE(OO)]

The book is wrong - There were 45 V-Spec N1s built right from 1999 when the BNR34 was first releasted, although from the chassis numbers we've uncovered so far, they weren't built in one consecutive run. 12 were track-only (for N1 racing obviously), the rest were mostly sold to workshops and some private buyers. The Mines R34 was one that was an N1 base car, and TRIAL Osaka had an N1 at one point too. Of the 33 road-going cars, many of them were later sent back to the track for racing duties, so at a rough guess only half of them still exist.

The V Spec II N1s were not a set run, they were built to special order once they had batches of at least three. Common consensus was that there were less than 20 built, and a figure of 18 has been mentioned in a couple of Japanese encyclopedia-style R34 GT-R books I've got.

Great info!

I needed that.

Thanks

[kimbod]

Congrats AliasJohn. You have joined a very exclusive club. We might have to hire out a bigger phone box now for our club meetings, Drive and enjoy it.

[rehab2010]

The book is wrong - There were 45 V-Spec N1s built right from 1999 when the BNR34 was first releasted, although from the chassis numbers we've uncovered so far, they weren't built in one consecutive run. 12 were track-only (for N1 racing obviously), the rest were mostly sold to workshops and some private buyers. The Mines R34 was one that was an N1 base car, and TRIAL Osaka had an N1 at one point too. Of the 33 road-going cars, many of them were later sent back to the track for racing duties, so at a rough guess only half of them still exist.

The V Spec II N1s were not a set run, they were built to special order once they had batches of at least three. Common consensus was that there were less than 20 built, and a figure of 18 has been mentioned in a couple of Japanese encyclopedia-style R34 GT-R books I've got.

Cool, thanks for that - now I'll write an email to the book author and bag him out.

[rehab2010]

The book is wrong - There were 45 V-Spec N1s built right from 1999 when the BNR34 was first releasted, although from the chassis numbers we've uncovered so far, they weren't built in one consecutive run. 12 were track-only (for N1 racing obviously), the rest were mostly sold to workshops and some private buyers. The Mines R34 was one that was an N1 base car, and TRIAL Osaka had an N1 at one point too. Of the 33 road-going cars, many of them were later sent back to the track for racing duties, so at a rough guess only half of them still exist.

The V Spec II N1s were not a set run, they were built to special order once they had batches of at least three. Common consensus was that there were less than 20 built, and a figure of 18 has been mentioned in a couple of Japanese encyclopedia-style R34 GT-R books I've got.

You should spend some time updating the wiki info Iron Chef, this is what its there currently:

• Standard Cars = 3,964
• V-Spec = 1,308
• V-Spec UK = 100
• V-Spec N1 = 45
• V-Spec II = ?
• V-Spec II Nür = 750
• V-Spec II N1 = 18
• M-Spec = ?
• M-Spec Nür = 250

• Total = 12,175

[kimbod]

I guess it depends which book you read. Mine has a total of 45 Vspec and Vspec 2 N1's produced .

[Iron Chef]

You should spend some time updating the wiki info Iron Chef, this is what its there currently:

• Standard Cars = 3,964
• V-Spec = 1,308
• V-Spec UK = 100
• V-Spec N1 = 45
• V-Spec II = ?
• V-Spec II Nür = 750
• V-Spec II N1 = 18
• M-Spec = ?
• M-Spec Nür = 250

• Total = 12,175

Will do when I get some spare time - does 2015 work for you? lol

[Iron Chef]

I guess it depends which book you read. Mine has a total of 45 Vspec and Vspec 2 N1's produced .

The problem is that so very little is truly known about them. When I bought mine, I actually thought it was 1 of the 45. Many people don't even know V-Spec II N1s even existed.

[NISMO]

The problem is that so very little is truly known about them. When I bought mine, I actually thought it was 1 of the 45. Many people don't even know V-Spec II N1s even existed.

The other problem is for some reason Nissan refuse to acknowledge the importance of some of their hero cars. You've got companies all around the world who set up registers etc for any kind of slightly special model yet Nissan have nothing and its left to owners.

I contacted both Nissan and NISMO to get more info on my N1, and they sent me back documentation showing specs when it left the factory, but its like they won't officially call it an "N1" (not just my car, but don't want to discuss N1's at all) They're not prepared to provide any info at all on 32 N1's in general. Its why there's so much crap on the web.

[NISMO]

Oh, and when i asked for them to provide the engine number that the car left the factory with, they said "they will only supply engine numbers to Japanese Police, with an official Police request" Seriously you'd think I'm asking them to hand over ownership of the company.

Its this kind of documentation that makes the special models "official" and makes them sort after for many years to come. Without their help i think the rare cars will never make it into the mass market collectors

[Iron Chef]

If it wasn't for pirated copies of FAST we'd all be in trouble I reckon. Thanks to another journo (who's no doubt stalking this thread ) we've amassed a decent amount of info about N1s of all kinds to put onto a website at some point...

Just for a bit of added trivia, the built split on V-Spec Nur and M-Spec Nur was 'about' 750 and 250, not even Nissan seems to know the real number.

If anyone is a gun computer geek and can crack FAST so we can do searches for build codes, I'm happy to pay to get it done.

Edited September 29, 2011 by Iron Chef

[rehab2010]

Will do when I get some spare time - does 2015 work for you? lol

As long as you stick to your promises

[Iron Chef]

I'm a second-hand car salesman, you can trust me! *flashes gold tooth* lol