So Will Sau Folk Still Refuse To Watch V8 Supercars

[JZP]

Bring it on the more brands the better. Bit bored of taxi racing.

[R31Nismoid]

But with parity is there really going to be much difference?

That's the question really.

I'd imagine the construiction will be near on identical, with just different shells. Engines from external also go through parity so will no doubt be restricted.

Just fearing it'll be similar to NASCAR in terms of the cars only really being marginally different.

[Marlin]

It's starting to hot up a bit isn't it.

I had a strange feeling this morning reading that. I thought, hmmmm, I understand the COTF and how they're built, but maybe, juuuuust maybe, new engines and a refreshed fan demographic might just turn me into a fan after 20 years of hate.

I really hope so, if only for selfish reasons

[Roy]

Ash, go to a V8 Supercar round and look at the car and tell me they are the same. They use the same building blocks, but its like saying a Racepace GTR is the same as a Godzilla Motorsports GTR is the same as a Willal GTR.

Look around and all the classes people love the look of offer poor racing and too high a cost. GT1 has just fallen over again. My main problem with the current Supercars are the muppets driving them. Apart from Lowndes and Murphy I dont like any of them to passionately turn on the box and barrack for any of them

[PHaT MR30]

You like Murphy Roy?

We are no longer friends...........

[Bodella]

Just looking at the engines - with parity matching will there still be enough of difference in things like response and reliability ? What are they matching, Peak kW or a combination of things like kW, torque and a RPM Limit ? ( I couldn't find it quickly on the super taxi website )

Bring it on I say. The average Joe needs to be able to relate to it, which is why a taxis shelled race car will win out over super cars every time.

I love WRC myself and those cars have NO relation to their road going namesakes ( other then the core shell.) but I'm strange like that.

[NickR33]

It remains a good spectator motorsport because of the limited aero, small tyres and decent power... the cars move around a lot which gives the sensation of speed... they're loud and durable enough to rub panels... it doesn't matter what road cars they're imitating or what brand motor is under the hood... it's fun to watch for the casual fan

I don't watch it much save for Bathurst... but you have to appreciate the longevity and success of the series

[mattie4270]

Stone brothers to AMG,oh yeah!!!

[PHaT MR30]

I think the engine parity thing is bullshit, why not let them run what ever engine from their manufacturers inventory and run restrictors on all of them. Ala FIA GT Racing?

Seems ridiculous that Mercedes is taking a 6.3 Litre engine and destroking it to the mandatory 5.0 Litres? why is 5.0 litres even relevant? Same for Nissans VK56.

[JAS-25T]

it will change eventually, but they don't want to make it look like ford/holden are being bent over for the jap and euro entries entirely.

[Marlin]

^^^ exactly.

[PHaT MR30]

Step up or get stepped on I say!

[Marlin]

Have you been on a course of steroids Timmy? You seem very angry.

[PHaT MR30]

Thats what my psychiatrist said...

[Marlin]

I think you need to rub one out.

wait until you get home though, don't do it at your desk again. You remember the stirr that caused last time.

[Roy]

The easiest way for things to get out of control is to let different manufacturers run vastly different capacities. If you let Nissan run 5.6, Mercs 6.3, GM 7L and Ford 5.4L or whatever they are you are going to instantly have vastly different levels of performance. If you cap them all at 5L then you just have to consider the differences in the valve gear and stroke/bore and how they make their power. Makes sense to me.

And yeh, I like Murphy...he used to sook a bit when he was competitive but these days seems to have come good and I think is a pretty good character

[djr81]

The easiest way for things to get out of control is to let different manufacturers run vastly different capacities. If you let Nissan run 5.6, Mercs 6.3, GM 7L and Ford 5.4L or whatever they are you are going to instantly have vastly different levels of performance. If you cap them all at 5L then you just have to consider the differences in the valve gear and stroke/bore and how they make their power. Makes sense to me.

And yeh, I like Murphy...he used to sook a bit when he was competitive but these days seems to have come good and I think is a pretty good character

Your Ford Falcon can be bought with a 5 litre, 32V V8.

The reason they wnt to keep the current motors is the teams have a huge amount of money tied up in them. Yes it would be easier for parity with all the same motors - then people would bitch that all the cars are the same. But that is the choice you have really - parity arguments or whingers that say the cars are all the same.

[Roy]

...parity arguments or whingers that say the cars are all the same.

That sums it up really doesn't it? I dont think they should have all the same motor, capacity yes, but not motor. There will be enough differences in the engines that they will have different notes and character. be interesting to see if the old story of pushrods having a bit better torque (mainly from the bore/stroke) than the multi-valve jobs

[34GeeTeeTee]

You like Murphy Roy?

We are no longer friends...........

Murph is awesome

All the cars will equal I reckon....

[tweety bird]

merc's in ha.

Hmmmmm.

i'd love to see a black and gold bmw on the grid too..........