Jump to content
SAU Community

D-A-T-S-U-N

GTR-N1

By GTR-N1,
in General Automotive Discussion

 Share

Recommended Posts

GTR-N1 Grand Master

GTR-N1

Posted
Posted

http://news.drive.co...122566#comments

To-day's update of a 8/7/11 Article suggests that Nissan has a budget to reproduce Datsuns again.

Besides the Chinese market, I would suggest that Nissan bring back some low budget fun into motoring with a Datsun to compete against 'Toymota'

In fact I've posted such a comment for vetting, as some of you might...

So far in this morning's poll, 66% support Datsun's re-emergence.

My Q here on SAU is...

What would you like to see in a Datsun engine bay + suspension and brakes etc?

Link to comment
https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/393753-d-a-t-s-u-n/
Share on other sites
Cowboy1600 Grand Master

Cowboy1600

Posted
Posted

I think I would soil the front of my pants if they revived Datsun.

Imagine a modern day 1600. I'm getting goose bumps just thinking about it.

I want small (<1000kg) rwd 4 door, boxy shape and a banshee revving, quad throttle bodied, all alloy 1.6L 4 cylinder.

16 inch wheels, independent suspension at each corner, old school trailing arm out back with some geometry correction as is generally applied to 1600s now, very basic interior. Strip away as many electronics as legally possible, only two airbags.

280ishmm brakes with twin piston callipers up front and smaller single pistons out back.

R180 LSD diff, big sway bars.

Fuel tank underslung, a can of tyre goo instead of a spare and a boot mounted battery.

Chrome bumper bars, door handles and c-pillar vents. A Venetian blind in the back window.

Please Datsun, do it for me. Without doubt I would buy one on pre-order. A new 1600 is a dream come true for me.

Link to comment
https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/393753-d-a-t-s-u-n/#findComment-6261782
Share on other sites
Cowboy1600 Grand Master

Cowboy1600

Posted
Posted

Not sure if they could get away with the weight savings needed and still comply with modern safety requirements, without going the super expensive materials route.

Most requirements are simple sensors and an ECU capable of doing what it has to. There are no requirements for a car to have super dooper intrusion protection, 20 airbars and all that crap. The only mandatory requirement is ESC.

A 5 door Hyundai Getz weighs barely over a ton, so it's not hard to keep kerb weight down cheaply. The original 1600 (with iron blocked L16 and full sized spare) was 900kgs, so add 100kg worth of modern shit to it if you must. That should be more than enough to appease the safetycrats.

GIMMIE!

Link to comment
https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/393753-d-a-t-s-u-n/#findComment-6261934
Share on other sites
iseekool Veteran

iseekool

Posted
Posted

I think I would soil the front of my pants if they revived Datsun.

Imagine a modern day 1600. I'm getting goose bumps just thinking about it.

I want small (<1000kg) rwd 4 door, boxy shape and a banshee revving, quad throttle bodied, all alloy 1.6L 4 cylinder.

16 inch wheels, independent suspension at each corner, old school trailing arm out back with some geometry correction as is generally applied to 1600s now, very basic interior. Strip away as many electronics as legally possible, only two airbags.

280ishmm brakes with twin piston callipers up front and smaller single pistons out back.

R180 LSD diff, big sway bars.

Fuel tank underslung, a can of tyre goo instead of a spare and a boot mounted battery.

Chrome bumper bars, door handles and c-pillar vents. A Venetian blind in the back window.

Please Datsun, do it for me. Without doubt I would buy one on pre-order. A new 1600 is a dream come true for me.

Amen.

My dream version would be something like (obviously using modern bits and to keep it cheap):

- Small light weight sedan, coupe, ute, wagon - say roughly the dimentions of a modern Yaris sedan

- RWD

- 1.6L to 2L alloy engine with direct injection, with an option for a low boost turbo setup.

- 6 speed manual from an S15 (light weight tranny)

- 5 speed auto option with tiptronic from 350z (still keeping it light weight)

- Minimal sound insulation (keep it light and cheap), but with option for people that want it.

- All alloy components where possible and plastic to reduce weight and cost

- Front and side airbags (whatever the minimum to meet regs.)

- VDC, TCS and ABS etc... (whatever the minimum to meet regs.)

- Brakes from R34 non-turbo (aka Maxima/300zx brakes)

- R200 LSD

- Basic interior with A/C

- Manual window winders, with an option for electirc windows if people so desire

- Premium sounding 2 speaker audio setup, with Single DIN AM/FM, aux in, DAB+ and USB - no need for CD, extra speakers or subs.

- No other un-needed electrics.

Link to comment
https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/393753-d-a-t-s-u-n/#findComment-6263609
Share on other sites
Cowboy1600 Grand Master

Cowboy1600

Posted
Posted

No one in their right mind would "expect" the car I've described, or anything similar, but it's fun to dream.

You've only got to click the link in Terry's opening post to know what to expect; a rebadged POS front drive budget mobile.

Link to comment
https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/393753-d-a-t-s-u-n/#findComment-6264446
Share on other sites
iseekool Veteran

iseekool

Posted
Posted

No one in their right mind would "expect" the car I've described, or anything similar, but it's fun to dream.

You've only got to click the link in Terry's opening post to know what to expect; a rebadged POS front drive budget mobile.

Yeh - true. Wishes will remain wishes...

At the same time the S chassis (S15) would be good to bring back especially since all the R&D has been done. Maybe find ways to make it cheaper/lighter and put a different shell, engine and safety features to suit. Profit!

They jam enough equipment into your typical Toyota Yaris/Mazda 2/Nissan Micra

I'd rather a pov spec RWD car anytime :cheers:

Link to comment
https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/393753-d-a-t-s-u-n/#findComment-6265037
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share
Go to topic listing


  • Latest Posts

    • 25zenki
      S1 rb25/s14 starting problem

      By 25zenki · Posted

      Harness is for a s1 Rb25det, and it is engine and lower harness.  the old harness had broken off plugs and was in very rough condition/exposed wires and splices etc. it is not able to be put back on the car, I could visually inspect to see if they had rewired any pins on the ecu plug. The fuel pump definitly isn’t turning off it’s an external pump and very loud you can hear it. Will look at the other harness tonight, am also going to pull the fuel rail and watch the injectors spray, will update here with what I find. Pretty sure at this point it has to be something to do with injectors because car will fire up on starting fluid and cas is clicking the Injectors. Fuel pressure is steady 43psi 
    • Waders360
      M35 Brake caliper replacement

      By Waders360 · Posted

      Sorry. Front brake calipers
    • MBS206
      S1 rb25/s14 starting problem

      By MBS206 · Posted

      Check the injectors flow evenly, and are actually flowing what you and the ECU think they should be flowing. If it's starting up on starter fluid, you have a fuel issue. Is it possible under cranking your fuel pump is turning off?   The harness you replaced, is that the whole engine harness? Do yourself a test, and drop the old harness on and plug it into the Z32 ECU. It's possible they've wired things different. From memory S1 to S2 is different in RB25 and you may have a wrong loom
    • 25zenki
      S1 rb25/s14 starting problem

      By 25zenki · Posted

      I haven’t pulled the injectors to watch them spray yet but they are clicking from the cas and all of the spark plugs are wet with fuel. I’ve thought the cylinders were being flooded from the beginning and was hoping fuel pressure would fix it. Tonight I am going to pull the rail and watch the injectors spray. Don’t know how to test/diagnose if the plugs are firing in correct sequence but that should be a timing thing and as far as timing goes my car still has the half moon for the cas can only install it 1 way. And my mechanical timing is 100% correct I posted photos above. Confirmed with the balancer on and off. 
    • 25zenki
      S1 rb25/s14 starting problem

      By 25zenki · Posted

      I checked spark on all cylinders and they all visually have spark with the plug pulled and grounded, but plug 1 is the only one that fouled. This was a running swap that blew up and was rebuilt by a machine shop, put a new wiring specialties harness and did all gaskets, studs, and bolts while it was out.  compression is 135-150 across all cylinders. Aside from that from my understanding with the z32 ecu and maf the car should start regardless. The wiring for TPS and the dual 02 sensor/ dual knock sensor stuff shouldn’t actually stop the car from starting or even running well, (just slightly rich)  they just give fault codes. Car supposedly is supposed to start as long as you have z32 afm and ecu with the nistune base map and that’s info coming from a well known and trusted tuner who does a lot with SR/RB (Rsenthalpy). After more trouble shooting today where I’m at right now is that the cas is sending signal to the injectors they click while spinning the rotor, Fuel pressure is now set at 43psi, all cylinders have good compression and all of the plugs looked great (just wet with fuel) except for cylinder 1 which was very black (cylinder 1 has 150psi compression). all of the coils generate spark if pulled out and grounded out on the head. On the fuel pump car just pops into the exhaust. On starting fluid car will fire off. Hard to tell if all cylinders are firing off but definitley a couple. sounds like all of them but it’s only for 3-5 seconds hard to tell. 
×
×
  • Create New...