Time For A New Clutch

[Manuel Kasko]

Hey Guys,

Just finished the tune and the car made 250rwkw

On the way home in 4th and 5th as soon as it comes onto boost it slips.

Pretty dangerous when trying to overtake etc.

Just wondering what you would recommend for around the $500 mark? or am I dreaming for a $500 - 250kw clutch

[sydking]

a good clutch isent cheap, and a cheap clutch isent good. Id put 2k aside, I've been looking around aswell, nismo suppercopper mix seems up there with the best for off shelf, custom jim berry or direct clutch, either way you won't get anything for 500

[Manuel Kasko]

Damn why must I be so cheap!

[sydking]

And if you do get a cheap one, youd pay that in Labour 3 times over installing when it craps itself. Need a second job for these cars...

[Manuel Kasko]

Haha this is true but they are worth it

Just read about that guy who makes clutches

Seems once it shits itself he can rebuild for very cheap

So would be a good investment

[Mitcho_7]

Are you installing the clutch yourself kasko? If not, I'd budget about 550-600 for labour ontop if you save the oil.

You could also look at the single plate nismo copper mix from perfect run, comes with everything and new flywheel I believe...

Edited March 29, 2012 by Mitcho_7

[MrStabby]

300kw NPC organic is something like $600 IIRC.

[sweefu]

I had mine 'made' by K B Clutch Engineering in Sydney, the clutch is good quality and well made, though I ordered a 5 puck, he ran out of 5's and sent me a 6 without telling me, and thought that was on ok thing to do. Apart from that, it's a good service. For around the $400 mark you will get an exedy 4-5-6 puck sprung brass button centre with ceramic pads and then he will make you a custom pressure plate depending on your power/torque levels. Mine is rated at 1300kg clamp pressure / 240kw / 440nm / 6400rpm and cost $400. Seems like the way to go, you would probably get a similar clutch with a higher clamp load. I just finished putting mine in this afternoon and it feels almost like a normal stock clutch with a bit shorter travel, it's very easy.

How is your tailshaft? Good time to change the uni's.

[Manuel Kasko]

Thanks for the info guys

If I have to spend the money I will but the build has already pushed my bank account.

Sweefu sounds like a good clutch I wonder how well it will hold up.

I would go the nismo but it's nearly 2k for it.

Will either install myself or get Shane to do it at work for cheap as labour.

[Manuel Kasko]

Don't even know how to check the tail shaft haha

[Mitcho_7]

I would go the nismo but it's nearly 2k for it.

single plate nismo is about 1200, it's the twin plates that are 2k+

If you're only wanting something to hold a bit more than you have now I reckon you would be fine with an npc clutch or something similar mentioned above. I only got a Jim berry because I am plannIng for the future as well as the present.

Edited March 29, 2012 by Mitcho_7

[jjman]

if you get a chance get the nismo coppermix. Got one in mine @250kw n it is the ducks nuts. So well sprung n easy to use. U can take off softly like a stock clutch or have heaps of clutch feel+grip on a hard launch to get the best take off.

I murder peeps with buttton clutches all the time cos they either bog down or wheelspin. N they have to live with that heavy on-off shit.

I love mine so much it makes me sleep easier..

[Manuel Kasko]

Jjman how much did it set you back mate

Sounds like a sweet clutch

Yours is single plate?

Just been searching online where are people buying these from?

[Mitcho_7]

http://perfectrun.jp/src/detail.php?pid=22027&pname=SUPER%20COPPERMIX&maker=nismo&maker_id=22&result_mode=qui&mcate_id[]=mct_6

That's a nismo single, the twin is available at the same place

[Manuel Kasko]

Done I'll buy one next month

Thanks guys

Anything else I need other then that pack?

I hate starting it and finding im missing parts

Also what's this about the tailshaft because I have no idea how or what I'm looking for

[Mitcho_7]

Contact them and double check to make sure. Might also be worth asking if they are willing to underquote the price of the clutch on the invoice to keep it under $1000 inc post so you don't risk getting hit with import duty and gst...

EDIT: Just looked on the nismo website and it says for the r33 gtst you will need to purchase a Nissan genuine engine plate (Part no: 30411-05u01) and exchange with the existing part.

http://www.nismo.co.jp/en/products/competition/clutch/pdf/clutch03.pdf

I think that is the engine backing plate the from the 33 gtr and 33gts4 maybe?

Edited March 29, 2012 by Mitcho_7

[Manuel Kasko]

Cheers for the info Mitch.

Let the saving begin!

[sweefu]

Just make sure you have a new spigot bush and release bearing.. Can't remember the proper name but I call it a release bearing. How much is the Nismo? The clutch I mentioned would be able to be made to hold your power no worries, I know someone running a similar clutch with a higher clamp load with 315kw / 700nm (perhaps he will post up in here) .. If you needed to save some cash, that could be a good way to go.

[Manuel Kasko]

Just make sure you have a new spigot bush and release bearing.. Can't remember the proper name but I call it a release bearing. How much is the Nismo? The clutch I mentioned would be able to be made to hold your power no worries, I know someone running a similar clutch with a higher clamp load with 315kw / 700nm (perhaps he will post up in here) .. If you needed to save some cash, that could be a good way to go.

So all up sweefu it set you back $800?

The nismo from what I could find was around the $1200 mark

[Birds]

If you're not chasing much more power Kasko, I recommend the Exedy cushion button that I'm running at the moment. We have the same turbo / similar power and it's not slipping for me. This clutch has been in my car for years, seen hundreds of hard launches and lots of slippage with daily driving...she's still holding strong after the power upgrade. It is a very friendly clutch, not harsh on take off like a normal button clutch, but it puts down the power if you want it to. Time will tell, but I'm certain others have run it at this power level without issue. Otherwise, there is always the Exedy HHHDB, which many people with 300rwkw+ have run without issue.