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M35 Stagea Brake Cut Off Mod?

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joshm35
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So i followed the above and installed the microswitch at the shifter. Only bit i can add to this thread that i had to use spacers below the switch to raise it of the plastic as the switch was hard up

DrLui
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scotty nm35
scotty nm35

There is no way you will be able to stall up a 3071 unless you open up the torque converter stator. That said, it should feel better with the wire cut still. I assume you are tapping the pink/blue ec

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scotty nm35 Grand Master

scotty nm35

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Why is that Alex? Its only dumping 10-15 degrees of timing for 3 seconds or so. Should be interesting to see the flames, lol.

I have to get this barge off the line somehow. Craig sent me this link...

PN-Mad Grand Master

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I just love seeing the stuff you come up with and actually get to work. It sure needs a hand to get off the line, maybe an extra litre would help :P

I have to slow my response down low...

scotty nm35 Grand Master

scotty nm35

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No exhaust just poked the dump pipe, yerh foot to the floor.

But I can't understand y I'm stuck at 2200rpms when im trying to stall it up? Shouldn't it let me go beyond?

Not with a 2200 rev stall converter. If you want it to take off hard you went too big with your turbo, now you have to match the stally to the lag you bought yourself. Mine is a 3000 stall converter and it may be for sale soon. I will probably be heading for 3500 stall with 6 lockup clutches instead if 1. (if Kewish can sort me out with one...)

anti lag? you did not tell me of this scott :P

Cihan and I were talking about it, seeing I don't want to go too big with the stall converter and I don't want to spool the turbo with NOS I have very little choice at the moment.

Yes Alex, the 3.5 will help but that isnt getting a plain rebuild, if I ever get the funds I will be shooting for big numbers, too big for a Stagea to handle I believe. ;)

scotty nm35 Grand Master

scotty nm35

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is this wire cut mod only limited to turbo stag's? what about v35s?

I have no idea, I would assume there is something similar in their ecu. Do you have a link to the ECU pinouts? I will have a look if you can find it...

PN-Mad Grand Master

PN-Mad

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I don't think that the V35/PM35/z33 throttle restriction is based off the same process as the NM35.

I believe its more of a electronic throttle table, that will only allow a specific percentage (or volts to be precise) of throttle opening at X load Y RPM. Not based off the brake signal as far as I can tell. I base this off the fact that I can alter the values in my tuning software. Anyone who has driven both cars will realise the difference.

scotty nm35 Grand Master

scotty nm35

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No pic.

The VQ25dd ecu uses the same plug as the VQ25det so it should be similar but without the pinouts youre flying blind. I have the full M35 electrical book in front of me but I can't read Japanese...

I don't think that the V35/PM35/z33 throttle restriction is based off the same process as the NM35.

I believe its more of a electronic throttle table, that will only allow a specific percentage (or volts to be precise) of throttle opening at X load Y RPM. Not based off the brake signal as far as I can tell. I base this off the fact that I can alter the values in my tuning software. Anyone who has driven both cars will realise the difference.

I too can adjust the throttle sensitivity but the restriction is different, have you hooked up the software to see if you get 100%tps at stall? Perhaps its gone now with the re-flash?

Deep Dish V35 Experienced

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yeah ive only got a jap version too

some v35s come with the factory snow/power switch that does the same throttle reduction/increase in sensitivity. i keep mine on snow 99% of the time but it has shown no improvement in economy... still 12.6L/100km

Deep Dish V35 Experienced

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Snow will take off in second usually although I haven't played with the switch much in mine.

each car is different obviously, in my case it still uses first, throttle response appears to be around 10% of normal, revs stay below 2500rpm, and no kickback.

PN-Mad Grand Master

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yeah ive only got a jap version too

some v35s come with the factory snow/power switch that does the same throttle reduction/increase in sensitivity. i keep mine on snow 99% of the time but it has shown no improvement in economy... still 12.6L/100km

Wat?

So, you put it in snow 99% of the time, but it doesn't improve economy, so in essence your driving around a car that feels like shit for no benefit! I see no point!

The one and only time I use snow is when I'm putting the car up on ramps- because it locks front /rear torque. It will just drive up the ramp easy (obviously you don't have awd...)

Scotty, I haven't done a throttle % map, and it is different now. I have a completely different ecu, even to most of the V35's, as its a Gen 2 Ecu- Runs widebands not narrowbands from factory. But there is just no way there is the NM35 style restriction on our Ecus- stock, there isn't the torque of the turbo motor!

Deep Dish V35 Experienced

Deep Dish V35

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Wat?

So, you put it in snow 99% of the time, but it doesn't improve economy, so in essence your driving around a car that feels like shit for no benefit! I see no point!

i only just calculated the economy after noticing the factory economy meter hadnt dropped....

using the switch is now just to make takeoff alot smoother... as the pedal is way too sensitive on the other settings.

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No exhaust just poked the dump pipe, yerh foot to the floor.

But I can't understand y I'm stuck at 2200rpms when im trying to stall it up? Shouldn't it let me go beyond?

As Scott said its due to the stock stall converter. Should work fine for the stock turbo....well it works great on my setup...

oh ok just realised you had a 3071...hmmm yeah no boost for you LOL

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i only just calculated the economy after noticing the factory economy meter hadnt dropped....

using the switch is now just to make takeoff alot smoother... as the pedal is way too sensitive on the other settings.

The pedal is way to sensitive....grow a set! This is a V6 not a nissan micra. Get over it or get another car

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