XGTRX Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Combine ALL of the drugs. But honestly while I can't really see it being a problem, Google it and speak to a doc just to be sure Doctor won't know shit. He will just give you more antiflams and sleeping tablets. Generalizing if course. I'm taking a concoction of tablets at the moment: anti inflammatory, multi-vitamin, magnesium, joint formula, B12 and biotin I had good results with cissus quandragularis. Got a couple of orthopods suggesting it to their patients with good results. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/412794-sleeping/page/15/#findComment-6993396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trozzle Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Doctor won't know shit. He will just give you more antiflams and sleeping tablets. Generalizing if course. I had good results with cissus quandragularis. Got a couple of orthopods suggesting it to their patients with good results. I'm torn here, because I also have no real faith in general practitioners (not because I believe they lack knowledge, but because I believe they don't really give a shit to do their job properly most of the time)....but at the same time, you make the most ignorant statements sometimes. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/412794-sleeping/page/15/#findComment-6993494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 If you don't feel your GP is helping your cause, don't go to them...simple as that. Find another one or go get help from alternative medicine. If a doctor is shit, he/she will start losing clients; you're not the only ones who have ever questioned whether your doctor knows what they are talking about. Keep in mind though, that when you have a nation of hypochondriacs and many health issues presenting the same symptoms as each other...people get frustrated and tend to blame the medical practitioners for not being able to solve their problem. Used to have the same issue when I worked for a mechanical workshop - customers gave you a misdiagnosis or were next to useless trying to help you locate the issue. I have a good GP who has helped me with numerous issues using prescription medicine; will continue to use A+++ good seller fast postage Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/412794-sleeping/page/15/#findComment-6993524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-FIGJAM- Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 he get good decca? my GP is golden, is yet to fail helping me or my family when we have been sick. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/412794-sleeping/page/15/#findComment-6993537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trozzle Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 My gripes with GPs are from when I crushed my vertebra. Multiple times I went in to the same practice (but different GP each time) complaining of HORRIFIC cramping leaving me in tears, and f**ked sleep as a result. Multiple times I was assured it was soft tissue damage, told to rest up and take it easy, and given a valium prescription. In and out, no xray referrals, nothing. I know it's pretty ignorant of me to paint all GPs the same after this experience, but I'm going to do it coz in a relatively short time (say less than 15 years) I'm almost guaranteed to cop some serious arthritis, and I can only hope it doesn't cripple me. All because I was assured by some lazy pricks I'd just torn a muscle. I'd sue them if I could. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/412794-sleeping/page/15/#findComment-6993578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Tell your GP you want further testing! Gotta remember, these guys deal with a lot of hypochondriacs who burden the medical system and Medicare with unnecessary tests and time wasting...hence GPs opt for topical fixes first, because most patients only require that and, as I said before, symptoms present in one issue can be the same as another. That's where follow ups and second opinions are important. Specialists can get it wrong too. You gotta work as a team rather than letting the GP run the show. Remember, you're half the diagnosis. My GP takes a more participative approach with me. It helps that I give the impression I know what I'm talking about, because I usually research things on the Internet before I go in to see him. This helps me to describe symptoms better and narrow down possibilities. He gives me options and recommendations, which are almost always the best, but if I argue that I want to go for a specific test or try a prescription drug, he'll give that to me without hassle. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/412794-sleeping/page/15/#findComment-6993617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trozzle Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 I made it pretty clear the kind of pain I was in, and it's no skin off their back to waste an xray referral. I told them everything (including the part about kissing my sternum) and time and time again I was given the same answer. It's their job to diagnose medical issues appropriately. They failed to do their job in a big way. Shouldn't be up to me to go in there and tell them what's wrong and what I want....they're the ones getting paid to do that....however this is exactly what I do NOW. I'll research the shit out of the problem I'm dealing with, and pretty much go in there and tell them what I believe is wrong. They'll either go with it, or actually pull their f**king finger out and diagnose it properly. So far it hasn't come to the latter, but thankfully I've been right each time. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/412794-sleeping/page/15/#findComment-6993642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 I agree with you mate, they should be more proactive about it...we shouldn't have to do half their job for em...I just think its more than just GPs being lazy or trying to make as much money in as little time as possible. They can only go off what you tell em and if you don't like the job they're doing you gotta change doctors, I guess! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/412794-sleeping/page/15/#findComment-6994593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trozzle Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 I agree with you mate, they should be more proactive about it...we shouldn't have to do half their job for em...I just think its more than just GPs being lazy or trying to make as much money in as little time as possible. They can only go off what you tell em and if you don't like the job they're doing you gotta change doctors, I guess! I suppose ultimately I actually NEED to see a GP so infrequently that I've not actually had a need to find a good one lol...most of my visits are just coz I feel like rat shit with a cold or something and just want a certificate for time off haha Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/412794-sleeping/page/15/#findComment-6994969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitcho_7 Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 I suppose ultimately I actually NEED to see a GP so infrequently that I've not actually had a need to find a good one lol...most of my visits are just coz I feel like rat shit with a cold or something and just want a certificate for time off haha This. When i feel like its something more sinister I go to the family doctor that I have gone to since I was young just because he is up on the family history and stuff. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/412794-sleeping/page/15/#findComment-6995022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trozzle Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 This. When i feel like its something more sinister I go to the family doctor that I have gone to since I was young just because he is up on the family history and stuff. Yeah, used to have one of those at the small practice at Monash shops...though a combination of significantly reduced frequency in illnesses as well as typical adolescent arrogance (let's face it, I'm hardly 25 in the head ) has seen me rarely visit GPs at all....might need to shop around next time I come down with something (or maybe NOW given I'm up shit creek and too lazy to care). Any suggestions for a half decent GP on the southside? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/412794-sleeping/page/15/#findComment-6995039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trozzle Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Other than still waking up covered in sweat, I'm now also dealing with something in my house causing horrible skin irritation on my hands and feet. It feels like most of my hands (inc. the palms) are covered in nasty mosquito bites. Same with my feet. Itchiest EVER. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/412794-sleeping/page/15/#findComment-6998397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Hmmm you might have scabies...have a read of this thread where I posted about them http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/topic/370610-virus-bacterium-fungus-parasite/ Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/412794-sleeping/page/15/#findComment-6998506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trozzle Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Nah unfortunately don't think it's scabies either. If it's still around in a couple of days I'll see a doc, but my mate whom recently experienced the exact same thing had great results with Zyrtec so I'm gonna grab some of that and see how it goes. Plus my "rash" if you could call it that doesn't look anything like the examples of scabies I found haha....that shit looks really worrying! Mine's mostly from scratching lol Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/412794-sleeping/page/15/#findComment-6998667 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 It slowly gets worse...mine had no visible trails/rashes, but I still had them Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/412794-sleeping/page/15/#findComment-6998674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trozzle Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Well given it's also on the palms of my hands and the soles of my feet (feet are currently driving me INSANE), I'm not so sure it'd be a parasite. I'll PM you with a bit more deets to save flooding this thread. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/412794-sleeping/page/15/#findComment-6998711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dani Boi Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Has anyone here been to a sleep clinic were they test you over night? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/412794-sleeping/page/15/#findComment-7012625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melly Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Yeah, used to have one of those at the small practice at Monash shops...though a combination of significantly reduced frequency in illnesses as well as typical adolescent arrogance (let's face it, I'm hardly 25 in the head ) has seen me rarely visit GPs at all....might need to shop around next time I come down with something (or maybe NOW given I'm up shit creek and too lazy to care). Any suggestions for a half decent GP on the southside? I used to see Andrew Pitcher in Deakin, he was good but then again he was also my doctor in Griffith when I was a midget before he moved to Canberra... I went to Ginninderra Medical centre, told me I had a strained muscle in my calf it was twice it's usual size and said "if you are concerned go to the hospital" went to the hospital and I had a DVT and found out I have f**ked up blood resulting in Warfarin oh yippee... Some Doctors are shit ... In regards to sleeping, Generally I don't, I can be ridiculously tired and still not sleep, been on all sorts of meds and still no sleep and not short term either, years and years and years only thing that makes me sleep is Mersyndol or Endone I average about 4hrs a night if I am lucky Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/412794-sleeping/page/15/#findComment-7017848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRS13 Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 I notice I sleep better when I take ZMA. The latest one I'm taking has that 5HTP stuff. Don't get woken up by the kids when I take that!!! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/412794-sleeping/page/15/#findComment-7019504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenna802 Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Last night I tried 1.5 grams phenibut , 1.5 grams GABA , 1.5 grams l-arginine and 25 mg of b6 slept like a log Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/412794-sleeping/page/15/#findComment-7026718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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