Formula 1 2013

[tweety bird]

vettel has extended his contract until 2015.

[ozbloke86]

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[ctjet]

Risky click

[ozbloke86]

Why, it's like the dream of every F1 fan!

[tweety bird]

Risky click

Click it (links to lotus f1).

[sh@un]

just need to ditch DRS

tighten the field back up again and it'll be golden

and what of the problem of overtaking in an era of delicately balanced aero packages?

[sh@un]

Why, it's like the dream of every F1 fan!

we've got a natural distrust of newbs who show up and tell us to click links is all...

/jadedforumuser

[ctjet]

and what of the problem of overtaking in an era of delicately balanced aero packages?

I think that the tyres provide enough of a performance differential, to the point where a lot of these overtakes would still have happened with, or without DRS

And quite frankly watching the leaders sweep past each other and finish nowhere near one another, is getting a bit tedious. Nobody is earning a place, DRS is gifting it them at the end of every substantial straight

[iamhe77]

Add active aero aids?

eg, similarly to KERS, drivers can activate under body fans for a certain duration per lap.

Seeing ballsy overtakes around corners would be much more interesting than straight line drag race that is DRS.

That said, seeing ballsy overtakes without aero aids would be much better. I miss 80's F1

[Roy]

So will be real interesting now that Vettel is confirmed.

Webber off contract, Kimi off contract and two young punks at STR killing to give it a go.

I think that with Mercedes looming large as a threat for coming years with easily the strongest pairing in F1...RBR have to be looking at Kimi. He doesnt ruffle feathers. Is fast and versatile and conistant. Kimi and Zetool would be a better combination then any other team on the grid.

So if Webber wants to continue then it is easy to see either Kimi's seat or Romain's seat being offered to him at Lotus. Whether he is up to it or willing to give it a nudge now they have lost one of the top 3 engineers in the sport remains to be seen.

If Kimi doesnt spring for the seat and the assumption that Webber is GONESKI, then who woudl you take ...Dan or Jev? I think Jev is looking as though there is room for the guy to improve where as Dan already looks the more conistant of the two. He has destroyed him something like 20-7 in quali so if you have thefastest car on the grid in the RBR then they woudl surely be looking for a guy that can quali well and have good race pace.

The apst two GPS have been very good for Jev and bad for Dan....i cross my fingers but I think a pesky Frenchman may get in the way of Dans dream

[ozbloke86]

we've got a natural distrust of newbs who show up and tell us to click links is all...

/jadedforumuser

I was involved in this but cant win so just sharing

Edited June 12, 2013 by ozbloke86

[hrd-hr30]

So will be real interesting now that Vettel is confirmed.

Webber off contract, Kimi off contract and two young punks at STR killing to give it a go.

I think that with Mercedes looming large as a threat for coming years with easily the strongest pairing in F1...RBR have to be looking at Kimi. He doesnt ruffle feathers. Is fast and versatile and conistant. Kimi and Zetool would be a better combination then any other team on the grid.

So if Webber wants to continue then it is easy to see either Kimi's seat or Romain's seat being offered to him at Lotus. Whether he is up to it or willing to give it a nudge now they have lost one of the top 3 engineers in the sport remains to be seen.

If Kimi doesnt spring for the seat and the assumption that Webber is GONESKI, then who woudl you take ...Dan or Jev? I think Jev is looking as though there is room for the guy to improve where as Dan already looks the more conistant of the two. He has destroyed him something like 20-7 in quali so if you have thefastest car on the grid in the RBR then they woudl surely be looking for a guy that can quali well and have good race pace.

The apst two GPS have been very good for Jev and bad for Dan....i cross my fingers but I think a pesky Frenchman may get in the way of Dans dream

Kimi would be insane not to jump ship given the opportunity. Lotus don't have the cash to keep up development on the car, and it's a one trick pony. Really gentle on tyres and only ever in the hunt where tyre deg is a big issue. Also, he's the most underpaid driver in the field. Unless there's no seat for him in one of the other 3 top teams, there is no point staying at Lotus.

I think JEV is the better option than Dan of the two TR drivers. But they really only take standout young drivers to RBR. JEV will need a few more of these recent results to make it to RBR I think.

Bottas really showed his ability in that dog Williams in the wet/changeable conditions in qually though. And showed maturity and skill in the race with all the faster cars, now able to use their genuine pace in the dry race start and fly past the slow Williams. I think I'd be after him over either TR driver if you were looking for young talent.

Edited June 12, 2013 by hrd-hr30

[Ants]

So will be real interesting now that Vettel is confirmed.

Webber off contract, Kimi off contract and two young punks at STR killing to give it a go.

I think that with Mercedes looming large as a threat for coming years with easily the strongest pairing in F1...RBR have to be looking at Kimi. He doesnt ruffle feathers. Is fast and versatile and conistant. Kimi and Zetool would be a better combination then any other team on the grid.

So if Webber wants to continue then it is easy to see either Kimi's seat or Romain's seat being offered to him at Lotus. Whether he is up to it or willing to give it a nudge now they have lost one of the top 3 engineers in the sport remains to be seen.

If Kimi doesnt spring for the seat and the assumption that Webber is GONESKI, then who woudl you take ...Dan or Jev? I think Jev is looking as though there is room for the guy to improve where as Dan already looks the more conistant of the two. He has destroyed him something like 20-7 in quali so if you have thefastest car on the grid in the RBR then they woudl surely be looking for a guy that can quali well and have good race pace.

The apst two GPS have been very good for Jev and bad for Dan....i cross my fingers but I think a pesky Frenchman may get in the way of Dans dream

very interesting Roy......despite being a winning team, I would highly doubt Webber would remain with RBR considering all the BS that has been occurring (would you remain in that environment with finger boy's political antics?)

Romain Grosjean is on very thin ice and Eric Boullier has mentioned to RG that this (season) is most likely is his last - just too many (stupid) mistakes. On the other hand I can totally see Kimi with RBR and would love to see that.

Knowing Kimi's demeanour, he would not give two sh!ts about Vettel and get on the with the job and make things more competitive within RBR.

If none of the above transpires, I would be lying if I was not disappointed to see 'Dan the man' not get a chance to be with RBR. He has IMO more credibility than Jev (big statement from me because I am French) and has started to demonstrate some his true potential this season (he needs to anyways).

Time will tell as usual.

Edited June 12, 2013 by Ants

[Roy]

Quali 20-7. Disco Dan shoudl have beaten Jev in teh WDC last year but for two mech failures at the end of races in points scoring positions. Jev crashed when in points scoring positions, caused a few big crashes etc. First year in F1 so excusable and no real blame deserved when put in context of gorwing pains.

STD have commented that Dan never spins, crashes or crashes and always looks in complete control. JA is expecting that the upcoming GPs will favour Dans style as i read theyir driving styles are very different and Dan should outperform Jev on circuits that require ability to get the most out of the balance of the car in high speed stuff.

[djr81]

Hmm maybe Webber should just sign up to be number 2 to his mate Fernando and be done with it.

Lotus are on the path to be busted arse broke so am not sure why anyone would want to go there.

Hoping Kimi does end up at RB if Webber doesnt resign.

[hrd-hr30]

No way would Mark go anywhere else unless RBR don't sign him for next year. Even if he doesn't like his team mate (hardly anyone does, its a complete mis-nomer in F1), he's much better off in the best car on the grid than anywhere else. No to mention RBR pay him 10m. Ferrari pay Massa 6m and he's out performing Webber in terms of percentage of the No1 driver's points. Lotus only pay Kimi 3m. Webber not going anywhere unless he has to. Most overpaid driver in the field.

[Roy]

If nothing else it will be interesting to see anotehr driver alongside Vettel. The Lewis-Rosberg has been interesting and will be good to see if someone can put Vettel into the shade or be destroyed by him. Fact is mush like Benetton-Renault in the Alonso days no team mate is going to really have a chance along Vettel at RBR. But if its the best car on the grid it is their best chance of getting a few GP wins.

I read a recount of the 2010 WDC a few weeks back and said it was laughable that Webber wasnt backed for the WDC since it woudl have been RBRs first. It did hurth to read a seasoned F1 journo talk like that

[JAS-25T]

Im not sure vettel is willing to be kimmi's little bitch and neither is kimmi to vettel.

and every team needs a little bitch.

[Ants]

No way would Mark go anywhere else unless RBR don't sign him for next year. Even if he doesn't like his team mate (hardly anyone does, its a complete mis-nomer in F1), he's much better off in the best car on the grid than anywhere else. No to mention RBR pay him 10m. Ferrari pay Massa 6m and he's out performing Webber in terms of percentage of the No1 driver's points. Lotus only pay Kimi 3m. Webber not going anywhere unless he has to. Most overpaid driver in the field.

time will tell my friend.

[Roy]

Im not sure vettel is willing to be kimmi's little bitch and neither is kimmi to vettel.

and every team needs a little bitch.

I personally think Kimi would have trouble with Vettels ability to qualify...but race pace and craft would be to Kimi. I think Vettel is more likely to get ruffled than Kimi. Didnt hear a peep from Kimi when Massa was in the hunt in 2008-2009.

My god just realised Kimi won the WDC in 2007...so long ago!