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oh gawd.

so many memories of 2011 race. wish I was there again.

webche on pole. finishes 3rd and picks alonso up who rides on the side pod, due to running out of fuel.

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Ditto...I was in belgium at a pub in Bruge watching quali and Webber putting it on pole and Cadel win the Tour in the time trial. I then drove overnight to pick up a friend from Frankfurt airport and we were debating whether to head back to Nurburgeing to watch Mark or head to a pub across the border in France to watch on the tv.

In hindsight we made the right call as Webber let that one get away from him./ Not this year though :)

You mean the office that took the fastest car in the field and tuned it into a jalopy that cant even break into Q3, is running 6th in the WCC and is 182 points behind the leader with more than half the season still remaining?

That design office?

Perhaps that is a talent... who am I to judge.

at least there's Jenson

that boy can extract the best from any machinery ;]

Im not sure all that is correct but the conclusion is unduly harsh. What you have to remember is that there is fk all in the way of testing anymore. Which affects Pirelli massively. The different cars use the same tyres very differently.

There's little testing with the teams, but Pirelli can formulate and test their own tyres in their own simulated workshop surely? Road tyres don't get tested on every single model of car they may fit, some assumptions are made about how drivers will use them - properly and improperly - and then the designs are made conservative so that the tyre is as safe as possible.

In any case, I agree that the blame goes 3 ways - Ecclestone for asking Pirelli to make shit tyres, Pirelli agreeing to make shit tyres and the teams not jumping up and down and boycotting this farce where they drive most of the grand prix at 7/10ths of full speed because they're in "tyre management" or "fuel management" and then we have an amazing 10 laps at the end.

Throttle's on the right, boys. Smash that carnt through the firewall and have a RACE for once!!

at least there's Jenson

that boy can extract the best from any machinery ;]

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As long as the car has no understeer or oversteer, no cross winds, no sun in his eyes, a slower team mate then he really does get the best out of any machinery.

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As long as the car has no understeer or oversteer, no cross winds, no sun in his eyes, a slower team mate then he really does get the best out of any machinery.

Sorry but have to agree lol

Every radio conversation when he isn't doing well - "the front tyres have gone" "The rears have no grip" "there's to much understeer"

Maybe I'm missing something but I was suprised Webber and/or Alonso didn't get a penalty or fine from that stunt above.

Not dissapointed about it, but just thought the stewards would frown on that a bit

So far a good weekend. Kimi and Romain strong. Mark on the second row on the clean side....AND Dan gets P6 again! Even if RBR dont grab him he is doing enough to surely be on the minds of other teams who my be looking to fill the seat vacated by the guy that goes to Ferrari or RBR

I dare say Lotus may be looking for a second driver next year. I think Dan would fit in well there if he doesn't get the Red Bull seat

Far out the commentry is pretty average. Allan Jones "There's a kink in one of the DRS zones which will make it very tricky if its wet" even though they turn DRS off in the rain.....

And Crofty in Q2 I think saying "We are yet to see a Red Bull" even though both Red Bull drivers had a time up

Commentators shouldn't be making the rookie errors that they do

Anyway. Good qualifying session :) Lotus in with a chance. Just need Hamilton and Vettel to take each other out at the start and Kimi to win to spice the championship up again

Kimi has signed at redbull

2 yr contact with a clause to get out at the

End of the 1st

Eric bollier is to take over at mclaren

Witmarsh to leave mclaren

Kimi has almost no social ties and expectation.

And will be given equal chance against vettel...

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