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Drivers only get lost in mid-rate teams when the driver is not worthy of a proper drive anyway......

Lotus is a better option the Sauber next year. They are more likely to get increased funding then Sauber. Who knows, in 2 years they might be right at the front. Remember they are ex-Renault, albeit without Flavio and some of the key players

He may very well get lost in a poor team if Sauber build an even worse car next year

http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/ferrari-said-no-to-hulkenberg-via-text-message-manager/

It has emerged that Hulkenberg was seriously considered by the Maranello based team as the replacement for Felipe Massa.

But when Ferrari ultimately signed Raikkonen, the Italian squad let Hulkenberg know in the form of a mere text message, the German driver's manager Werner Heinz has revealed.

"After two months of negotiations, I expected at least a phone call," he told Germany's Auto Motor und Sport.

Werner said five lawyers worked for eight weeks on the Ferrari contract, where ultimately the only missing link was president Luca di Montezemolo's signature.

"The contracts went back and forth and in the end only had to be signed," Heinz told the German newspaper Bild.

"Domenicali sent us a SMS at 22.50 on Tuesday," he added.

Heinz continued: "Now Ferrari has signed Kimi we are talking again with Lotus. It looks like they are set for 2014."

Switzerland's Blick newspaper said a return to Force India is Hulkenberg's 'plan B'.

Lotus team boss Eric Boullier confirmed that Hulkenberg is in the running.

"Of course," he told RMC Sport, "as are all the drivers that are available.

"Felipe Massa is also available, so he is inevitably on the list. These are drivers whose management approached us," added Boullier.

I can see Lotus wanting to go for the experience of Massa with the regs changing so much next year. Will Massa be willing to take that much of a paycut? It's probably the only way to stay in F1 other than a thankyou seat at Sauber from Ferrari.

Edited by hrd-hr30

This year lap times at the Singapore circuit will be faster than ever before after changes were made to Turn 10.


Ahead of next weekend's night race, race organisers opted to make changes to the circuit by removing the chicane at Turn 10.


Instead a single-apex left-hand bend has been laid down, which means drivers could head in about 40 km/h faster than before.


Speaking about the change, Fernando Alonso Tweeted: "These days working in the simulator. New turn 10 in Singapore this year, without the chicane of before. The lap is around 1sec faster..."


Meanwhile, the official F1 website reports other changes in that track has been resurfaced at Turns 1 to 3 and also Turns 5, 8 and between 13 and 14. The pit lane has also been resurfaced.


http://www.planetf1.com/driver/18227/8918500/Minor-changes-to-Singapore-layout



Ferrari has further boosted its technical structure with the signing of Lotus' head of aerodynamics Dirk de Beer.


http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/109844



ferrari just showing everyone that they're still the head of the piranha club and because of this lotus is going to be nowhere next year. :(


http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/ferrari-said-no-to-hulkenberg-via-text-message-manager/

I can see Lotus wanting to go for the experience of Massa with the regs changing so much next year. Will Massa be willing to take that much of a paycut? It's probably the only way to stay in F1 other than a thankyou seat at Sauber from Ferrari.

It would be a poor decision to take Massa because he is experienced? He has driven for two teams. And frankly his understanding of the fat and slow to respond Fezz isnt going to help Lotus where they need lean thinking and targetted feedback. He knows how Sauber worked and how Fezz work...he has hardly looked motivated the past 2 years.

Huk has 3 full racing seasons in F1, one as a tester for 3 different teams. He has gained valuable experience at Sauber this year where he would have been forced to grow and lead the team as the rookie team mate is a hack vs team mates like Di Resta and Rubens....the guy has the right balance of experience and hunger. He will be looking to make the most of the opportunity whilst Massa will walk aroun talking about how the team doesnt have the resources of Fezz.

Its a mute point anyway as i am blindly hoping that Romain comes into his own...one good result and the guy will be unstoppable. Just needs that confidence back. Get it on the front two rows in a decent car and we is a threat

I wouldl hate for Massa to sign for Lotus AND I think its a rubbish idea.

It would be a poor decision to take Massa because he is experienced? He has driven for two teams. And frankly his understanding of the fat and slow to respond Fezz isnt going to help Lotus where they need lean thinking and targetted feedback. He knows how Sauber worked and how Fezz work...he has hardly looked motivated the past 2 years.

Huk has 3 full racing seasons in F1, one as a tester for 3 different teams. He has gained valuable experience at Sauber this year where he would have been forced to grow and lead the team as the rookie team mate is a hack vs team mates like Di Resta and Rubens....the guy has the right balance of experience and hunger. He will be looking to make the most of the opportunity whilst Massa will walk aroun talking about how the team doesnt have the resources of Fezz.

Its a mute point anyway as i am blindly hoping that Romain comes into his own...one good result and the guy will be unstoppable. Just needs that confidence back. Get it on the front two rows in a decent car and we is a threat

I wouldl hate for Massa to sign for Lotus AND I think its a rubbish idea.

You keep flogging that dead French horse lol.

Why, he is quality! Had his dramas. Showed his class and was beating Hulkenburg in GP2 before stepping up to Renault mid season only to be dumped for Petrov and money. Went off into the wilderness...smashed the 2011 GP2...came out strong early last year and should have won in Spain but for mech failure.

He IS MEGA QUICK. His mistakes...yes...but the guy is such a champ. All smiles, great attitude, doesnt come from money or with big sponsors. His support of the powers to be within the Renault family are because of talent. Hell he working as a bank clerk all up until stepping into the Renaul F1 car.

He may be a rough diamond at the moment but if he can polish up his speed....he will be special in the right car. LOL and I like backing a nice guy!

KImi is...but you need someone to barrack for. There have been races where Romain has been told to move over and others where he has compromised his race to give Kimi max points. He isnt running round sooking...just moving over for Kimi in what, 2 of the last 4 races?

Felipe Massa has revealed that he is in talks with Lotus about replacing Kimi Raikkonen while he has also had "contact" with McLaren.

http://www.planetf1.com/news/3213/8924698/Massa-Negotiating-With-Lotus-For-2014

button and massa at mclaren?

:laugh:

Felipe Massa has revealed that he is in talks with Lotus about replacing Kimi Raikkonen while he has also had "contact" with McLaren.

http://www.planetf1.com/news/3213/8924698/Massa-Negotiating-With-Lotus-For-2014

button and massa at mclaren?

:laugh:

Contact with McLaren. To do what? Organise a tour of the museum? Admittedly now they have signed up a Mexican sponsor than can dump Perez but why would you replace him with the only bloke in the whole field who is less capable????

I am in contact with lots of people. They generally tell me to get farked but I am in contact with them. I refuse to follow Kimi to Fezz so need to hope Lotus sign someone in the second seat who I can get behind. I would hate it to be Massa. Would rather the seat go to Valsecchi or soem young punt who may or may not be fast. You would have to have rocks in your head to not take Hulk if you were Lotus,

There was some talk that Smedley is going to Williams, who have been recruiting some good technical people ahead of next year. I like Bottas but can see them signing a Massa and putting Bottas out to pasture for a year.

I am in contact with lots of people. They generally tell me to get farked but I am in contact with them. I refuse to follow Kimi to Fezz so need to hope Lotus sign someone in the second seat who I can get behind. I would hate it to be Massa. Would rather the seat go to Valsecchi or soem young punt who may or may not be fast. You would have to have rocks in your head to not take Hulk if you were Lotus,

There was some talk that Smedley is going to Williams, who have been recruiting some good technical people ahead of next year. I like Bottas but can see them signing a Massa and putting Bottas out to pasture for a year.

Much the same response as I get then.

Hoping Williams can bolt together something that actually works next year. Cant remember a case in recent history when a team went backwards so quickly in the space of a season. Well other than McLaren maybe. Bottas brings in coin and the team think well of him. Not sure they can say that of Massa. Hell they gave Barichello the arse because of Sennas dollars so why sign Massa?

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