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The "problems" with the X1 didn't bother me in the slightest. I don't trade/buy second hand games, I don't tend to play old gen games, and my Xbox is online 24/7 anyway. What's the big f**kin' deal?

I borrow games, I play older games(incl ps1 and 2), and use it as a bluray player.

I hope the ps4 has backplay, but doubtful.

I borrow games, I play older games(incl ps1 and 2), and use it as a bluray player.

I hope the ps4 has backplay, but doubtful.

Hasn't it already been confirmed that PS4 is not backwards compatible?

The "problems" with the X1 didn't bother me in the slightest. I don't trade/buy second hand games, I don't tend to play old gen games, and my Xbox is online 24/7 anyway. What's the big f**kin' deal?

MS are building a steambox. Awesome. That's exactly what I'm after.

LOL, nice. and very true.

Will buy either one in the near future when I don't want to spend 600 bucks for a half decent graphics card then spend another 600 to SLI/cross fire it.

true dat....I just got myself a GTX670 OC :) and twas only half that.

Wow....that was sooo boring I fell asleep.

Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.

smart man, I don't have much hope or high expectations. I'm rarely disappointed.

Architecture dictates that backwards compatibility isn't gonna be a thing. Too far different.

This.

Here's another video to bore everyone's socks off,

It's a lengthy vid, and probably more suited/interesting to the techheads on these forums.

Mark Cenry, PS4 Chief Architect explains why they've chosen the specific hardware for the PS4 - learning from their mistakes with PS3, it turns out, things like unified memory and x86 architecture were all requested by the developers.

He also explains their two options of either using a total 256bit GDDR5 RAM VS 128bit GDDR5 Ram plus a small amount of eDRAM and why they chose the route they did.

The first half is mostly about his prodigy background and how Sony evolved from the PS1 all the way through to the PS3; if you want PS4 specific, it starts at ~34:00.

  • 3 weeks later...

The PS4 will dedicate approx. 3.5GB to the OS and leave games to play with 5.5GB. This equals to 9GB you say? That's because developers can utilise 1GB from the OS when required.

http://www.geek.com/games/ps4-gives-5-5gb-of-ram-to-games-out-of-8gb-1563583/

The xbone will have 3GB for OS and 5GB for games.

Will it make much difference in the end? Perhaps

Lol, on paper, yes; the PS4 wins.

However, both are still technically similar, so it'll end up on which has the features and games you're more interested to use/buy.

The ability to seamlessly switch from one game to the other is a plus.

  • 4 months later...

So I've ended up getting a PS4

Verdict so far = FU CKING AWESOME

Everything just works so smoothly. The games load super quick (even with the stock hdd) and it's just an all round fun toy. I've bought it with Killzone: Shadow Fall, and despite the reviews, I can't get over how awesome the game is for a launch title. The camera voice control (although limited in function compared to the kinect) works flawlessly.

A couple of mates have the xbox one. The kinect is really cool and user friendly. Being able to surf the net while playing is pretty good.

A mate had pre-ordered one and decided he didn't want it; so I bought it instead :D

I think they're all sold out ATM and you may have to wait till December to buy one. The JB in my area is sold out until Feb 2014…

There are plenty of xbones in stock. It's also a pretty good system if you wanna go next gen sooner than later.

Played Forza 5 on mates Xbone today.....played for about 30 minutes...best racing sim ever.

And the Kinect is f**king awesome. The voice command works incredibly well, as does the gesturing.

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