The Infirmary

[rev210]

physio.

[Mitcho_7]

What sort of thoracic spine injury and how did they diagnose it?

I dont know about you but if I had a spinal injury, I probably wouldnt be going to a chiro because all they do is spinal manips which isnt necessarily going to beneficial. Besides, if you have a good physio they should be able to do everything a chiro can do

[Trozzle]

More or or less a remedial massage therapist

Fix my shoulder kunt! There's the wristy of a lifetime* in it for ya!

*not really lol

[L33SH]

Physio and Trigger Point therapist both said it was a thoracic spine facet joint injury.

I wanted to get an ultrasound last week but my GP told me to wait, maybe I should go back this week and just say I want one.

Different people are telling me different things, some people are suggesting chiro and others suggesting physio.

[No Crust Racing]

+1 for physio or myo as opposed to Chrio. (For me the Myo I have is head and shoulders above the physio's I've seen, they have the same anatomical understanding but also are fantastic at deep tissue massage and myofascial release techniques that the Physio doesn't go near.

I think a good SPORTS physio/Myo is better again, and there are people around my area who identify distinctly as such.

The (free) physio I see at the hospital for my ankle is always saying how great it's going but she's only thinking from a basic functionality point of view, can I walk and jog pain free for a bit? Yes then you're doing great compared to the last guy I saw who can't walk unassisted.

A decent sports centric therapist realises that you want hih level function, not just basic movement, and works towards that. I'm about to leave my free physio I think and head towards one of the sports specialists for higher level assessment and to work out how to help stop my bad foot rotating outwards and rolling inwards when load is placed on it, which f**ks squatting up badly for me, and also strains my god side as it carries much more of the load.

[Trozzle]

Contrary to the usual advice of "squats", in this situation I would recommend deadlifts.

[No Crust Racing]

For me? I stopped them for the moment as my lower back and hammy were linked in discomfort. I started them lightly again last night.

[Trozzle]

Haha nah sorry that was aimed at leesh. It's a joke anyway lol, stemmed from my discovery that the "best" thing for all the horrid cramping I get around my thoracic spine is deadlifts

[No Crust Racing]

Ahh yeah, I had bad SIJ issues and deadlifts was the thing that fixed it no doubt in my mind.

Edited August 27, 2013 by ActionDan

[Trozzle]

Ahh yeah, I had bad SIJ issues and dadlifts was the thing that fixed it no doubt in my mind.

I had SIJ issues CAUSED by deadlifts (well, more likely bad form and bad ROM through hips...but still )

[Birds]

Squats cure fk all. Great exercise, but deadlifts are the tried and tested replacement for a chiro.

[Trozzle]

Squats cure fk all. Great exercise, but deadlifts are the tried and tested replacement for a chiro.

Who needs a functional spine when you've got lats and traps coming out the yin yang

[mad082]

+1 for myo over chiro. There is one upstairs from work. I've had days where I could barely walk properly from back pain and after 30 mins on the table I'm much better. It hurts like hell while I'm getting wailed on, but afterwards I feel much better

[No Crust Racing]

Hammy continues to be an issue despite dropping all leg work with the exception of walking for normal daily activities and walking the dog once a night, short walk, 2ks.

I note my lower back on the same side is tight and not moving freely also, similar spot to when I had the SIJ issue.

Is there a chance the hammy is being strained by poor mobility above and below it if that makes sense?

I might go back to the myo and get another hour session and this time not train the day after it thinking it's ace.

[L33SH]

I really think you should try trigger point!!

[No Crust Racing]

I had dry needling done, isn't that the same thing?

[L33SH]

I had dry needling done, isn't that the same thing?

It's not quite the same thing; similar principle but trigger point doesn't use needles and allows the therapist to focus on one trigger point at a time. I feel trigger point enables the therapist to get deeper into the muscle fibres.

To me your hamstring sounds like an active trigger point; referring pain either locally or to another location along a nerve pathway.

[No Crust Racing]

To me my hamstring sounds like aids =\

Might have to cut it off.

[L33SH]

To me my hamstring sounds like aids =\

Might have to cut it off.

Hahaha awwwww Dan!

If it helps I'm feeling the exact way about my shoulder blade atm

The thought of slicing it open is actually relieving to me lol

However, since my last physio visit on Friday (this physio was a hundred times better) it's actually feeling better than it's ever been. She said she hasn't come across someone so stiff in the thoracic spine before She loosened me up and manipulated me. I had an intense migraine for 2 days but feeling a lot better today; just constant cracking.

[No Crust Racing]

Great success, hopefully it continues to improve.