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Josh: sit tight, I was talking to TRW and they are looking at plain 595s for drifters.

Ricoh: Interesting, I hadn't heard that, where did you hear/read that?

Here in the MS section a couple of times. Have a look at the semis thread.

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Yup, I was geared up to get them, guys who were running tyres they got ages ago raved about them, I was quoted 360 per tyre in 18/265/35 in medium comp, but too many guys said the compound had changed and they were now slow, ordinary. Wasn't just one either quite a few said the same thing. So, after much umming and ahhhhing I went kumho v70a. Ended up being the best balance of performance vs dollars plus good lasting, my local guru says easy to drive on, so they ticked all the boxes. The Hankooks were up around 450 per tyre, AO50 was dear ish too and dunlops scary dear. Bit of good info in the circuit semi thread and the semis for sprints/hill climbs thread

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This is why I love dealing with TRW, I was talking to Luke last night about the comments in here and I have a reply from him and Federal this morning, now that's service. Anyway, here's what he said.

""I did my research when we got Federal onboard, and stumbled across the thread saying that the compound changed.

So I had a serious chat with my federal rep...

I said this is what I have read, what is the story.

He informed me that the new compound was harder. However what seems to be happening the internet community are comparing them to a A 048 or 050. And yes they are harder, yes they are slighter slower, but they last longer. At $310 a corner for 235/45/r17, they are good value compared to the $600 of a A050.

He said that there has been some feedback from the guys with light car with small power outputs that said they had trouble with them, (I take this to be the Escorts, and the like) But the heavier cars with more power found them more durable.

I asked about the soft option, and he said its the same soft tyre. Its quick but like anything in a soft compound it won't be as durable."

So in my mind that makes plenty of sense and they still represent good value, I've been happy with the RS-Rs for the money.

Oh and he also said this.

"The 595 Drift tyres are now up, and at crazy prices. $105 for a 17 inch"

Like I said, that's service.

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He said that there has been some feedback from the guys with light car with small power outputs that said they had trouble with them, (I take this to be the Escorts, and the like) But the heavier cars with more power found them more durable.

Have you tried them yet? Can anyone racing a Skyline comment?

Just about to make the switch to 18's and need some new semis, however I'm on a budget and want something that will last while I get familiar with the car.

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Agreed Harry, so I'd like to hear from people who have used the new compound, I'm OK with it being slower than competing products because it's so much cheaper.

It's all relative. I didn't build up a Silvia and use RS-Rs because I'm trying to be the fastest guy out there lol

What do you think is a good bang for buck tyre Harry? What are you running?

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He informed me that the new compound was harder. However what seems to be happening the internet community are comparing them to a A 048 or 050. And yes they are harder, yes they are slighter slower, but they last longer. At $310 a corner for 235/45/r17, they are good value compared to the $600 of a A050.

Last time I bought A050's they were $500 for a 255/40/17. Expect the 235's to be cheaper again.

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Would love to see an apples to apples comparison rather than a guess, where's a good place to get A050 prices to compare?

Yokohama Motorsport Dealers.

Motorsport tyres require expertise. The tyre size, compound and tyre pressure you use can make a big difference to the performance of your car. As such they're sold exclusively through one Yokohama ADVAN Motorsports tyre dealer in each state. Yokohama motorsport dealers can advise competitors on how to set up their car and tyres for the best performance.

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Excellent reply (as in thorough)

So they are $475each for a 235/45/R17 or $660 more than a set of FZs and that's not even accountign for the free delivery with the FZs.

1240 for a set including delivery or 1900 then you still need delivery.

Like I said, they can be a bit slower when they are 35% cheaper and include delivery as well.

Other places may have them cheaper of course that was just the first one I checked.



Size: 235/45R17 M

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Excellent reply (as in thorough)

So they are $475each for a 235/45/R17 or $660 more than a set of FZs and that's not even accountign for the free delivery with the FZs.

1240 for a set including delivery or 1900 then you still need delivery.

Like I said, they can be a bit slower when they are 35% cheaper and include delivery as well.

Other places may have them cheaper of course that was just the first one I checked.

Size: 235/45R17 M

All I did was copy/paste it from the Yokohama website.

Not that I care but slower is usually cheaper and more durable.

The Yokie price usually includes fitting or delivery. Or both I guess if you take your rims to one of their dealers - which I take it includes one of their non motorsport dealers. That is what they offered me on my last set. I would have done this but I didnt want my Rays rims anywhere near my yocal Yokie tyre man so I got someone else to fit them.

Anyway this isnt about A050's. How do the Federals go in terms of heat cycling?

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Harry I see you were using the FZs earlier this year, are you still on them? IS that pre/post new compound? What did you think of them?

Car: 180SX
Weight: 1360kg incl driver
Power: 200rwkw (claimed by previous owner when i bought it)
Aero: none
Box: stock H Pattern
diff : 4.3 shimmed viscous LSD

Tyres: Federal FZ201
Lakeside: 205.5km/h
Time: 59.6 (05/04/2012 on Natsoft and QR's 2012 midweek sprint results)

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I'd consider the kumho v70a's mate, faster tyre and i reckon you should be able to get them for simular money i got 18's for around 375 a tyre in medium.

our local suspension/tyre/tuning guru says they are quite easy to drive on and in cold weather (sub 15c) they will go all day, good life and they are fast. only a tiny bit off dunlops dz03 for half the money.

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