Jump to content
SAU Community

Recommended Posts

No Caterham, no Marussia for the American GP's. Maybe someone will finally get the hint that teams need actual money to keep going. Sure as hell Bernie doesn't need any more and no one cares for whichever private equity muppets are gouging it all this week. Its not just the minnows, the midfield teams are bleeding money too.

This was in Autosport today:

A letter written to Todt by Caterham, Marussia, Sauber and Force India, a copy of which has been seen by AUTOSPORT, laid bare just how expensive F1 was.

It provided an example of what a midfield team was now spending - excluding driver salaries, building leases, hospitality, marketing and media.

Bigger teams are spending more, in some cases much more, while F1's minnows Caterham and Marussia have been trying to get by on much less.

The breakdown for an average team went as follows:

Hybrid power system $28 million
Gearbox and hydraulics $5 million
Fuel and lubricants $1.5 million
Tyres $1.8 million
Electronics $1.95 million
IT $3 million
Salaries $20 million
Travel and trackside facilities $12 million
Chassis production/manufacturing $20 million
Windtunnel/CFD facilities $18.5 million
Utilities and factory maintenance $2 million
HR and professional services $1.5 million
Freight $5 million
TOTAL $120.25 million

Of course such high expenditure only becomes an issue if income does not cover it, which is where much of the current problem has materialised.

Income from F1's commercial rights is only around $55million - roughly half of the cost of competing - for a midfield team like Sauber or Toro Rosso.

This was in Autosport today:

A letter written to Todt by Caterham, Marussia, Sauber and Force India, a copy of which has been seen by AUTOSPORT, laid bare just how expensive F1 was.

It provided an example of what a midfield team was now spending - excluding driver salaries, building leases, hospitality, marketing and media.

Bigger teams are spending more, in some cases much more, while F1's minnows Caterham and Marussia have been trying to get by on much less.

The breakdown for an average team went as follows:

Hybrid power system $28 million

Gearbox and hydraulics $5 million

Fuel and lubricants $1.5 million

Tyres $1.8 million

Electronics $1.95 million

IT $3 million

Salaries $20 million

Travel and trackside facilities $12 million

Chassis production/manufacturing $20 million

Windtunnel/CFD facilities $18.5 million

Utilities and factory maintenance $2 million

HR and professional services $1.5 million

Freight $5 million

TOTAL $120.25 million

Of course such high expenditure only becomes an issue if income does not cover it, which is where much of the current problem has materialised.

Income from F1's commercial rights is only around $55million - roughly half of the cost of competing - for a midfield team like Sauber or Toro Rosso.

Fark..

5 million in freight? DHL are raping teams at higher than normal commercial rates. They give money to FOM and get it all back and some by overcharging the contracted teams.

The wind tunnel cost is a joke too. Just let them go testing with a 3rd driver at race meets and on 4 occassions through the season. Then limit windtunnel testing 8ng to say 100hrs

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now



  • Similar Content

  • Latest Posts

    • This car has run before on this z32 ecu can get the part number for you, I have tried with no AFM it didn’t change anything, I compression tested today 140-150 across all 6 cylinders, also set fuel pressure to 43psi. The only weird thing was cylinder 1 plug was black and fouled other 5 cylinders were just wet with fuel. Spun cas by hand and confirmed injectors are clicking 
    • Since you came here to ask for help, have you thought about answering our questions, that might help us lead you to why it was skipping, or have you given up on getting advice?
    • A 1.5 way is a 2 way. It is just a 2 way with a less aggressive ramp on overrun.
    • The ABS and/or TCS being missing/broken will not cause the engine to misbehave. It just casues CEL to come on and annoy you. The CEL is useless if it is always on, so you have to do the things you have to do to get rid of it, so it can be useful. Being a Stag ECU, then yes, it will not expect TCS to be present. But it will expect ABS to be present and working. You will need to either make the ABS CU talk to the ECU (don't ask me what that will take on an NA R34), and make sure the hardware is working....or, you just need to blank it out in Nistune. Do not persist with the stock ECU. You will just have problems. Gte it Nistuned. Start from there. DO YOU HAVE A BOOST SENSOR? The ECU's boost sensor that it. It is connected to the loom at the rear of the coil cover. Usually rides on the firewall on an R34, but is usually bolted down to a bracket along with all the other crap at the back of the coil cover when a Neo is dropped into another car. If you do not have it, the ECU will shit the bed. So, do you have one?
    • So sadly the fuel pump etc was not it. The pump and filter is new and it is still cutting around 4000 rpm. A read something about ABS/TCS (engine is from stagea and ECU too so no TCS) and i dont know for 100% that my car has ABS. It has ABS "cube" in engine bay but i dont think it works(or at least from my braking experience). Can be something like that?  I will be driving the car next week to Nistune tuner to properly see what is wrong...  
×
×
  • Create New...