Blitz Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 EMStress.. Man if your going to all that trouble how could you go such a cheap ECU.. Why not look at a microtech, Haltech or PowerFC. Not to mention the Power FC is VERY affordable and really, for this application you cant beat a full plug and play ECU. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/44775-neo-powered-r33/page/2/#findComment-923335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
smok74 Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 The EMS is a stand-alone fuel system therefore one advantage is that u can do away with an AFM (air flow meter) as some people consider it as an 'bottleneck', my mates R31 (RB30DET ie RB26 head !) runs an EMS and he's achieved 210rwkw on the dyno just to say what they are capable of. Now, the RB30ET from the VL Calais was originally released with a T28 or T3 if my memory serves me correctly so it would be a hi-flowed version of either one of these but I am 110% sure that the RB30ET did NOT come out with a T4. Hope that helped. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/44775-neo-powered-r33/page/2/#findComment-1887172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
smok74 Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 By the way, when I say EMS, Im referring to the brand, ie the blue logo..... Like I said, you can get rid of ya AFM (why bother upgrading to a Z32 afm??) by using the EMS, you can eliminate the intake air-flow's parameter in it's mapping so you can have an intake pipe from the air filter to the turbo as big as u want it in diameter without any restrictions such as the size of the AFM. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/44775-neo-powered-r33/page/2/#findComment-1887194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 Why hi-flow a VL turbo, when a hi-flowed NEO turbo will deliver more power? VL turbo's have a smaller comp cover, restricting air flow. If i had to decide between a std NEO eng or rebuilding a 33 eng, i would rebuild the 33 with full set of forgies, especially at "family rates" . Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/44775-neo-powered-r33/page/2/#findComment-1887216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 I am a strong believer of the term "an ECU is only as good as it's tunner". So if your uncle is a wiz on the EMS ecu's, stick with it, i'm sure it will be fine. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/44775-neo-powered-r33/page/2/#findComment-1887221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 ........my mates R31 (RB30DET ie RB26 head !) runs an EMS and he's achieved 210rwkw on the dyno just to say what they are capable of........... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> RB30, with RB26 head, making ONLY 210rwkw is a damn pretty poor effort. Not sure it that is because of a tired eng., poor tune or ecu related, but i wouldn't accept that power out of such a proven combo. Something sounds drastically wrong Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/44775-neo-powered-r33/page/2/#findComment-1887233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Links Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 WTF - 7 Jul 2004, 03:26 PM 18month old thread lol.. amusing to see them dug up.. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/44775-neo-powered-r33/page/2/#findComment-1887242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
smok74 Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 Al, detuned until he can afford a R33 GTST box n a diff upgrade. Dont forget, not everbody has the funds (or the bloody rich parents) to do what they want to their cars, considering Mr Rigoli probably sent him broke with donk alone. It makes me sick sometimes, I came to a cruz a little while ago and took some photos, I took one at Newcastle with a whole isle of Skylines and you know what? 9 / 10 were P platers ! Now the question is how many of these are actually owned by the driver? and not brought with mummy's cash ? It took me two years of my hard savings just to get to my starting point - a '97 series II '33. No offence to any of the p-platers that actually got their cars with their own cash but I think ppl know what Im on about. It'd be nice to have all the cash in the world to do whatever u want to ya ride Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/44775-neo-powered-r33/page/2/#findComment-1887291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
raz0r$harP.UK Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 smok74 - stop bringing up old threads!! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/44775-neo-powered-r33/page/2/#findComment-1889207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 (edited) Al, detuned until he can afford a R33 GTST box n a diff upgrade. Dont forget, not everbody has the funds (or the bloody rich parents) to do what they want to their cars, considering Mr Rigoli probably sent him broke with donk alone. It makes me sick sometimes, I came to a cruz a little while ago and took some photos, I took one at Newcastle with a whole isle of Skylines and you know what? 9 / 10 were P platers ! Now the question is how many of these are actually owned by the driver? and not brought with mummy's cash ? It took me two years of my hard savings just to get to my starting point - a '97 series II '33. No offence to any of the p-platers that actually got their cars with their own cash but I think ppl know what Im on about. It'd be nice to have all the cash in the world to do whatever u want to ya ride <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Smok74, i fully respect that point of view, as it has taken me 6yrs to build up my car from std to what it is today. I am not sure what triggered your inital response, as i see the cost of buying a NEO and completing the conversion into a 33, would probably be as expensive as rebuilding the 33 RB25. Also the benifits would be greater as it would have much stronger internals. If it was my rb30/rb26 comments that triggered your post, well a standard rb26 makes a easy 250rwkw, let alone the 30/26 combo. EDIT: Just worked it out (combo is detuned to save the box and diff ). Well you did not state that in your initial post, was just stating that the combo is capable of much better results . -Alan Edited January 23, 2006 by Al Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/44775-neo-powered-r33/page/2/#findComment-1890839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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