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Hey all

I am interest on how bad are my wheels sitting with camber and toe i have attached an image that i received when the wheel alignment was done.

All i can assume is the target data is the data they believe is the best for my vehicle, it is stating on the on paper the vehicle i drive

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GTSBoy Grand Master

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OK. 4 degrees of -ve camber on the rear is just bloody stupid. Is it lowered until the exhaust is scraping on the road? The only time that much neg camber makes sense is on a very fast circuit car on slicks.

Your original rear toe numbers were massively toed out and it would have felt awful. The new settings are still toed out and it will possibly still feel unsettled. That is unless you like a really active rear end. The other possibility is that I am reading your sheet wrongly. I had assumed that the target data for the rear was indicating toe in (which I would expect). If it is fact recommending toe out, then you have a lot of toe in and it will be a bit dead . This is an important point because it impacts what I have to say about the front toe.

Your front camber numbers are about as highly negative as I would want on the street. For a street car I would go for a little less.....like -1.5°. But -2 is OK. You will wear the inside edges of the front tyres a little faster than the rest.

Your front caster numbers are high and OK. That is about where people would like to have them. I note that they did not change them in the alignment.....does this mean you do not have adjustable caster rods on the front? If you put some on you may be able to get even a little more caster if you wanted.

Your front toe was all f**ked up. It probably needed a lot of steering wheel angle to drive straight. Either that, or the steering wheel was pulled off and put back on one spline out!! Your new toe is at least even. It appears as if the recommended toe at the front is toe out. That's not normal - normal Nissan specs are toe in. So I may be reading your sheet backwards. Anyway, if the spec is for toe in, then you have a lot of it and it will be dull. If the spec is for toe out, then you have a lot of toe out and you will find it very darty and possibly hard to control. And if it is in fact toed out, then coupled with your -2° camber, you will almost certainly destroy the inside edges of your tyres.

The normal system for reporting toe angle is that +ve is toed in and -ve is toed out. In that case both ends of your car are set up with quite a lot of toe in, which will be dead and dull to drive. At least at the front they might have done it to compensate for the wear from the front camber.

KiwiRS4T Grand Master

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Is your car heavily modified or accident damaged?

The shop has been unable to reach their target figure in most cases. I am surprised that they couldn't get the toe right as there is normally plenty of adjustment available.

The front castor is fine but the camber is a bit high and will chew out tyres. The rear camber is as GTSBoy says OTT.

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You didn't make the same mistake I did and get a cheap alignment done did you? I had one done last year on my R34 sedan and they completely f'ed up all the settings.

What happened was they were looking for the make and model in the alignment machine database, didn't find a match (surprise), and just randomised some other car's settings.

They also had a completely blank look when I started talking about the adjustable arms I have, lucky to have had the skill to turn the alignment machine on I reckon.

My recommendation is to take the car to a reputable shop and pay for a proper alignment.

GTSBoy Grand Master

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I think we can safely say that Kres is located somewhere in Eastern Europe. So whether or not the alignment was "cheap", there is going to be a fair chance that the shop is not that familiar with Skylines. Although, I have seen plenty of 4 door R34s in the porn that comes out of Czech Republic, Ukraine and Russia.

r32-25t Grand Master

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Or he has hectic stance and fitment bro and need the camber to make the wheels actually fit the car

It is toed in front and rear which is right and for the amount of camber is pretty close to where you'd want it, the camber ridiculously high but as I said before that could because of hectic fitment

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