Jump to content
SAU Community

Recommended Posts

I thought the V8 version was for the American Market and possibly the Australian market. But there was still going to be a twin turbo? Rezz........
Ok, the "V8 for the US market GT-R" rumour has been going around for aaaaaages now... and guess what? STILL no development of a V8 for ANY V35 platform.

I say that again: STILL no DEVELOPMENT for a V8 in ANY Skyline, be it GT-R, Stagea, sedan... what this basically means, is that Nissan are 2 years out from the release of the GT-R, and still no development of a V8. Is that enough for you guys?

The only information that has been leaked about the new GT-R development has been already posted here on SAU. This info revolves around a 3.0/3.2 V6 twin turbo, and the "e-4WD" system that'll replace the ageing ATESSA ET-S system.

I stress that the new GT-R will be ABSOLUTELY stunning in the technological side of things.

Link to comment
https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/46172-06-goes-v8/page/2/#findComment-940028
Share on other sites

RB26_S15: Pull your thumb out mate and post up a scan of the article pretty please???

I guarantee I can refute ANYTHING written up in that Speed article. Speed are going for maximum sales by printing BULLSHIT.

Ok, i shall 'borrow' my mag back off my friend

Ok V8 soarers? V8 Cima's, Q45's? VH41DE, VH45DE, VK56DE... need i go on?

Japs have built better V8's than yanks have for many a year.

Ohhhhhhh Yeh LOL what was i thinking....

Link to comment
https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/46172-06-goes-v8/page/2/#findComment-940772
Share on other sites

Its not going to be V8. ill put some money on this one. Speed magazine seem to publish alot of hyped up crap. i think they were talking about how nissan is releasing a V8 four door family car probably an infinity or something. how many times do you read speed magazine and think "these guys are talking shit!"

Nissan have put way too much development into the 3.5 V6 we see in the 350Z. it has also been released by nissan, that they have been testing heaps of turbo set ups on the engine too. i even remember reading in HPI or Zoom some time ago, of garrett japan doing the turbo set up in their V35 skyline coupe. with amazing results. they used a fairly small turbo set, but produced huge mid range and very impressive top end, and as it turned out... it was Nissan who requested and payed for all the turbo development for the 3.5L

the V8 thing is just to stir up everyone.

consider all the new N/A engines the japanese have designed lately... all of them make more power than the 5.7L V8 motors we see produced here or in the US. the japanese love their light weight all alloy 6cyl engines and get a ton of power out of them.

my money is on a twin turbo 3.5l V6. and i bet it will be pretty impressive. why would they need to completely develope a new V8 when they have a very potent V6?? it wouldnt be economically viable for them...

thats my ten cents anyway :)

Link to comment
https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/46172-06-goes-v8/page/2/#findComment-941202
Share on other sites

just to put a little more light on this title of this thread, if your reffering to "SPEED" #013 the artical is in refference to the racing history of the gt-r in the "BNR-series" and they ref to the future of the GT-R being powered by the "VQ-30DETT"

P.S. ? what base engine has powered the last passenger/sports cars NISSAN has released in OZ? hint ("i'll have a burger and fries thanks") tv add...

Link to comment
https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/46172-06-goes-v8/page/2/#findComment-941515
Share on other sites

Here it is....

1. Sorry about the angle (i didnt scan it)

2. Sorry if it has nothin to do with a V8 V35 as its the first time im reading it to.

RB26_S15: Don't get me wrong mate, I'm not gonna "shoot the messenger" so to speak, but that article you scanned is the biggest piece of horse shit I've seen printed in an Aussie mag for awhile...

BELOW is EXACTLY THE SAME article as printed in Horide Auto last month, except where Speed Magazine has decievingly put "Skyline", the Infiniti M45 is in actual fact THE NEXT CEDRIC/GLORIA and that the car is going to be sold in Japan as a 2.5 or 3.5L V6, NOT as a V8 like Speed wrongly says. Add to that the fact that the M45 will be called the FUGA in Japan (and probably everywhere else...

fuga.jpg

See in BIG letters the name Fuga? Thats what the next Cedric/Gloria is getting it's name changed to.

Speed Magazine... how could they get it sooooo wrong???

Guys, in future, please run ANYTHING about the new Skyline (be it GT-R or otherwise) past me first, and I'll iron out all the potential bullshit.

Cheers lads, (thanks for the scan RB26_S15 :P)

/Rezz

Link to comment
https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/46172-06-goes-v8/page/2/#findComment-943115
Share on other sites

RB26_S15, Firstly there was no mention of a GT-R in that article so how could you say the GT-R will have a V8 and secondly nobody knows more about the Skyline scene then Rezz...:)

Justin, LOL...I'd becareful...Speed could be taking all your post and printing them word for word soon :).

Now for the article, how could they get it so wrong. I have a mate who is a part time writer for them and he knows the scene pretty well in Japan. How could they publish something so off topic, unless they think no one in Aust follows the global motor shows. The FUGA has always been said to be the replacement for the Cedric/Gloria, where did the Skyline story come from! Even if nobody picked that up, the M45 name gives it away again as the replacement for the Infiniti M45 in the States which again is not a Skyline.

Link to comment
https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/46172-06-goes-v8/page/2/#findComment-943838
Share on other sites

RB26_S15, Firstly there was no mention of a GT-R in that article so how could you say the GT-R will have a V8

Like i said....

2. Sorry if it has nothin to do with a V8 V35 as its the first time im reading it to.
nobody knows more about the Skyline scene then Rezz...

:D yep, i have came to notcie that.

Link to comment
https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/46172-06-goes-v8/page/2/#findComment-945347
Share on other sites

  • 2 years later...

That said, if you have a listen to the GT-R Testing at Nurburgring video...that engine doesn't sound FI. There's no flutter. There's no sneezing. There's no induction sucking noise, or anything you get from a turbo car that isn't OEM polished.

However, it does sound like the current crop of high revving Euro V8s. The noise its making on throttle reminds me of the Audi RS4, previous BMW M5, etc....

the reason it would suk is cause in case u didnt realize...there is kinda a war between V8's an turbo's :) .....thats y it would suk bigtime cause i hate v8's despite how much potential power they do hold....... neway....GO TURBO....down with the v8's

lol a turbo isnt an engine its a means of forced induction ... your saying the war is between small capacity straight 6's and 4cyl engines and v8 power plants... And any car enthusiest would say what your trying to say there is a complete load of uneducated shit lol.

The possibilities of forced induction with larger capacity engines is great imagine the torque you would have as soon as you put your foot down with a turbo charged v8. We arent talking about a 1980 308 or 253 out of your mums first commodore here.

Edited by fEkuaR
The possibilities of forced induction with larger capacity engines is great imagine the torque you would have

If I had to buy a family car, but could afford to buy anything with 4 doors, it would be an Audi RS6 Avant. What's better than a V8 or a turbomotor? A twin turbo V8, baby.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Similar Content

  • Latest Posts

    • I know why it happened and I’m embarrassed to say but I was testing the polarity of one of the led bulb to see which side was positive with a 12v battery and that’s when it decided to fry hoping I didn’t damage anything else
    • I came here to note that is a zener diode too base on the info there. Based on that, I'd also be suspicious that replacing it, and it's likely to do the same. A lot of use cases will see it used as either voltage protection, or to create a cheap but relatively stable fixed voltage supply. That would mean it has seen more voltage than it should, and has gone into voltage melt down. If there is something else in the circuit dumping out higher than it should voltages, that needs to be found too. It's quite likely they're trying to use the Zener to limit the voltage that is hitting through to the transistor beside it, so what ever goes to the zener is likely a signal, and they're using the transistor in that circuit to amplify it. Especially as it seems they've also got a capacitor across the zener. Looks like there is meant to be something "noisy" to that zener, and what ever it was, had a melt down. Looking at that picture, it also looks like there's some solder joints that really need redoing, and it might be worth having the whole board properly inspected.  Unfortunately, without being able to stick a multimeter on it, and start tracing it all out, I'm pretty much at a loss now to help. I don't even believe I have a climate control board from an R33 around here to pull apart and see if any of the circuit appears similar to give some ideas.
    • Nah - but you won't find anything on dismantling the seats in any such thing anyway.
    • Could be. Could also be that they sit around broken more. To be fair, you almost never see one driving around. I see more R chassis GTRs than the Renault ones.
    • Yeah. Nah. This is why I said My bold for my double emphasis. We're not talking about cars tuned to the edge of det here. We're talking about normal cars. Flame propagation speed and the amount of energy required to ignite the fuel are not significant factors when running at 1500-4000 rpm, and medium to light loads, like nearly every car on the road (except twin cab utes which are driven at 6k and 100% load all the time). There is no shortage of ignition energy available in any petrol engine. If there was, we'd all be in deep shit. The calorific value, on a volume basis, is significantly different, between 98 and 91, and that turns up immediately in consumption numbers. You can see the signal easily if you control for the other variables well enough, and/or collect enough stats. As to not seeing any benefit - we had a couple of EF and EL Falcons in the company fleet back in the late 90s and early 2000s. The EEC IV ECU in those things was particularly good at adding in timing as soon as knock headroom improved, which typically came from putting in some 95 or 98. The responsiveness and power improved noticeably, and the fuel consumption dropped considerably, just from going to 95. Less delta from there to 98 - almost not noticeable, compared to the big differences seen between 91 and 95. Way back in the day, when supermarkets first started selling fuel from their own stations, I did thousands of km in FNQ in a small Toyota. I can't remember if it was a Starlet or an early Yaris. Anyway - the supermarket servos were bringing in cheap fuel from Indonesia, and the other servos were still using locally refined gear. The fuel consumption was typically at least 5%, often as much as 8% worse on the Indo shit, presumably because they had a lot more oxygenated component in the brew, and were probably barely meeting the octane spec. Around the same time or maybe a bit later (like 25 years ago), I could tell the difference between Shell 98 and BP 98, and typically preferred to only use Shell then because the Skyline ran so much better on it. Years later I found the realtionship between them had swapped, as a consequence of yet more refinery closures. So I've only used BP 98 since. Although, I must say that I could not fault the odd tank of United 98 that I've run. It's probably the same stuff. It is also very important to remember that these findings are often dependent on region. With most of the refineries in Oz now dead, there's less variability in local stuff, and he majority of our fuels are not even refined here any more anyway. It probably depends more on which SE Asian refinery is currently cheapest to operate.
×
×
  • Create New...