Formula 1 high tech V8 supercars in 05??

[Shrub32]

FIA unveil measures to slow down F1

Big changes proposed for 2005

From 2006, there will be a choice of engines...

The FIA has today provided the Formula One teams with details of a package of measures to reduce the performance of Formula One cars. These measures are likely to be imposed if satisfactory proposals have not been agreed by at least eight teams and presented to the FIA before 6 September 2004.

1. Aerodynamics (2005)

Diffuser height limited, front wing raised, rear wing element moved forward and changes to the bodywork immediately in front of the rear wheels. Together, these changes are estimated to reduce downforce on a current car by at least 25%, but reduce drag by less than 4%.

Explanation: lower downforce will reduce speeds, particularly in fast corners, and slightly increase braking distances, while the small reduction in drag will have a minimal effect on straight-line speeds.

2. Tyres (2005)

A driver may choose from two types of tyre, as in 2004. He will then have two sets of his chosen tyre, one for Friday and Saturday practice, the other for qualifying and the race. A damaged tyre can be replaced during the race (taken from the first set), but the car cannot be refuelled at the same time as the damaged tyre is changed.

Explanation: a tyre which must last 350 km rather than 80 km will have less grip, reducing cornering speeds, increasing braking distances and possibly producing less tyre debris or “marbles”.

3. Engine (2005)

One engine to last for two race weekends.

Explanation: both peak and average power will be less than for an engine with a shorter life.

4. Engine (2006)

2.4 litre V8 (90º) with maximum bore diameter, fixed cylinder spacing, minimum crankshaft centre line height, minimum weight and minimum height of centre of gravity. Direct fuel injection, variable geometry inlet systems, variable geometry exhaust systems, variable valve timing and variable valve lift systems all prohibited. Only one spark plug, one coil and one injector per cylinder. Exotic materials banned.

Explanation: a 20% reduction in capacity will produce a corresponding drop in power. Constraints on design and the use of materials will significantly slow the rate of power increase and reduce the scope for using engine design to improve chassis characteristics. Keeping existing cylinder sizes retains many current engine components while keeping engine revs close to current levels.

5. Other engines

During 2006 and 2007, teams which cannot obtain a 2.4 litre engine will be able to use a 3 litre V10 with power restricted by means of a rev limit fixed by the FIA.

Explanation: this will ensure that all teams (including new entrants) have access to a competitive engine, even if supplies of the new 2.4 are initially restricted.

[Nizman]

I will miss the current era of F1 cars, even if the red ones always won. I like the sound of the aero and tyre restrictions. Dont like the engine rules though.

In the long run if it makes the sport more entertaining its good.

[funkymonkey]

bah there's always indy car racing for all the high tech stuff

[Bax]

Interesting, whats the point though really, it'll slow them down for a while.

And by the sounds of it they are trying to cut costs a bit, but at the same time, by introducing new engine and chassis designs etc they are encouraging teams to spend a heap of dollars on relearning- redesigning their systems.

So in the end, the ones that throw the most cash at engineering will win, i.e. Ferrari. Fair enough Shumacker is a good driver, but with the cash getting pumped into that team most drivers should be able to get a good result out of it. (Referring to current field of drivers, not me and you)

All in all, it should be good to see.

[Shrub32]

I will miss the sound of the 3 Litre V10s if they do change them to V8s everything else im for but leave the engines at the current 900 horses please

[KamikazeR33]

my prediction:

will make f1 slow and boring

chess will become the worlds most watched sport

[T0nyGTSt]

As long as Schumacher is driving, it's a dead bore.

T.

[Silver-Arrowz]

Engineers will ALWAYS find a way around the rules to make the cars faster. Remember when slicks were banned and groved tyres came in? Look now. The current grove tyres are better than slicks back in 97.

If drivers think the cars are too fast then they should hang up their helmets and go drive Ms Daisy.

[EnricoPalazzo]

exactly. this pisses me off, its meant to be the best fricken car racing in the world. ITS A JOKE NOW. b

[Duncan]

surely their biggest problem is that 1 team is doing it so damn well atm and audience numbers are declining

a smaller problem is that there are only 18 cars competing because of the costs....but the real problem is that the audience isnt seen to be there by sponsors aren't paying up.....

[Laurence]

Formula 1 cars should have exotic engines and a V8 just isn't exotic, no matter how many revs it pulls.

[MarkG]

It's a joke...slow the cars down with aero packages, and new rubber rules etc..but no f*cken way to a V8 engine.

Might aswell replace the pit crew with a bunch of Trevs in flannos and stubbie shorts!

[wannabe]

Hmm,

I reckon that the v8 idea is pretty ordinary. Car speeds can easily be reduced by restricting the tires. Like i am sure a few guys on here know from personal experience it does not matter if you are running 500rwkw if you can't get traction...

[jager]

Wannabe luv the you pic from shit i have seen in a while, and its so true

ford are big and heavy with a big motor for talk to move fat bitches like that, remember the next time ya look in a ford i bet at least 4 out of 5 of those people are FAT

[wannabe]

YEp,

Bout the only ford that i see consistently driven by a fit folks would be the Jag F1 cars!

[T0nyGTSt]

I don't necessarily agree that one team domination is 'boring' per se.

We've seen McLaren in the past but there were TWO drivers at the same level, not the ONE man domination as it is now.

T.

[Laurence]

Yes... nobody here seemed to mind the Gibson Motorsport Show either...

[EnricoPalazzo]

Nobody cared when McLaren Dominated 96-97, Benetton in 93-94, Mclaren in late 80's to 92.... And so forth. FIA is English based and i see it as anti-ferrari (italian).

[T0nyGTSt]

And so forth. FIA is English based and i see it as anti-ferrari (italian).

There's probably some truth there... with the vast majority of teams based in the UK (Woking, Surrey is where I am!) I don't doubt that there's some concession to the other 'hard up' teams. I'd imagine the there's a bit of two faced behaviour to Ferrari from the Englanders.

One thing though is that Ferrari are a very international team, only the top end is filled full of Neapolitans.

T.

[fatz]

id like to see a 2.4 v8 punch more power than a supertaxi

i would be laughing my arse off