gtst25 Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 You can get an 044 to fit internal - I've got 1 in my '33. Bit more stuffing around but possible. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/58229-top-rb20-club-do-you-have-over-260rwkw/page/47/#findComment-1896284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend01 Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 Hi Guys just got back the results of the flow tests between the rb20 standard manifold and the hks cast manifold will mark these 1 to six front to back standard HKS cast 1. 159.7 170.7 2. 162.4 166.6 3. 160.7 178.7 4. 150.6 183.6 5. 149.9 182.2 6. 173.3 184.7 As you can see all flow pretty well and a marked inprovement over standard but you'll have to draw your own conclusions if the flow improvement is what your after for the cost although afe did state the these are very well made the casting quality was some of the best his seen and flow extremely well for a cast manifold a worthwile investment over standard and he was kinda wondering why they stoped making them . One other thing he said to me was not to tell anyone you have one as he said you'd probably surprise some people with the way the car goes even in standard form to say the least i think it impressed him and that statment coming from someone who deals with these sorts of things daily makes for an impressive statement Cheers Peter Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/58229-top-rb20-club-do-you-have-over-260rwkw/page/47/#findComment-1900557 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 Good to know...now i have to decide, do i go with the HKS manifold and 3037 or go with the trust manifold with a T67 or TD06-25G Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/58229-top-rb20-club-do-you-have-over-260rwkw/page/47/#findComment-1900936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bl4cK32 Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 Would be good to know if it flowed any better with extrude honing, as looking at mine it could get better still.... Im going with the 3037 and my hks cast manifold if i can ever pull my finger out Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/58229-top-rb20-club-do-you-have-over-260rwkw/page/47/#findComment-1901020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 So who can tell me the internal diameters of the Rb20DE, RB20DET, RB25DE, RB25DET and VG45 throttle bodies? I figure the Mitsu boys love boring out their throttle bodies for a few extra kws... And has anyone looked at the alignment of inlet manifold to the head? I figure if the extrude honing isnt too expensive then i will get the inlet manifold flowed, match port it to the head, throw a bigger throttle body on it and see how it goes.... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/58229-top-rb20-club-do-you-have-over-260rwkw/page/47/#findComment-1902406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bl4cK32 Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 (edited) I looked at the inlet manifold porting to the head when i fitted my motor up together. Basically there was sfa difference. I just took out the 1 or 2 mm here and there that was the difference. I was suprised how well the std nissan stuff was matched Roy. Using the gasket as a template and a rotary tool it took only like a few mins to get it spot on... Extrude honing the inlet would be good as well as the exhaust manifold. As far as i know the tb is about 2.5" (same as ic piping/afm ~80mm) and the VH45 is about 90mm (same as the afm) Edited January 27, 2006 by Bl4cK32 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/58229-top-rb20-club-do-you-have-over-260rwkw/page/47/#findComment-1902559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl h Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 iirc the stock rb20 tb is 60mm, rob at rips in nz does a 5mm over tb for the rb20 but the manifold must be bored to suit. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/58229-top-rb20-club-do-you-have-over-260rwkw/page/47/#findComment-1902710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydneykid Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 Several years ago (there is thread on it), we flow bench tested a standard RB20 cylinder head, inlet manifold plenum and throttle body up to airflow sufficient to make 500 bhp. It showed no improvement when we removed the throttle body completely. So fitting a larger diameter throttle body is a waste of time and money until at least 300 rwkw is reached. It maybe even more than that, we stopped testing at 500 bhp. cheers Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/58229-top-rb20-club-do-you-have-over-260rwkw/page/47/#findComment-1902763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 Funny you say, the new baby is shooting for 300-330rwkws, so whilst its all apart may take the time for a small improvement here and there <{POST_SNAPBACK}> i take it your not doin that on std internals? I was thinking of trying a hks 2835 pro or hks gt-rs and see what sort of number i can pull with a low mount Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/58229-top-rb20-club-do-you-have-over-260rwkw/page/47/#findComment-1903037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver gts-t Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 hopefully soon we'll see how a HKS Fcon V Pro will perform on a RB20 minus AFM... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/58229-top-rb20-club-do-you-have-over-260rwkw/page/47/#findComment-1903054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogi000 Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 silver gtst , should be interesting, i've seen one other r32 without afm and it had a very snappy throttle response Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/58229-top-rb20-club-do-you-have-over-260rwkw/page/47/#findComment-1903237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwazza11 Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 hopefully soon we'll see how a HKS Fcon V Pro will perform on a RB20 minus AFM... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> already seen. performs well, thats IF you can find someone to tune it. atm i'm waiting on a tuner over here in SA that says he's trying to develop some software for it. other than that its only BD4s that can tune them AFAIK. as soon as i can get it tuned the turbo will be downsized. KKK-K27@12psi Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/58229-top-rb20-club-do-you-have-over-260rwkw/page/47/#findComment-1903402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver gts-t Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 already seen. performs well, thats IF you can find someone to tune it. atm i'm waiting on a tuner over here in SA that says he's trying to develop some software for it. other than that its only BD4s that can tune them AFAIK.as soon as i can get it tuned the turbo will be downsized. KKK-K27@12psi <{POST_SNAPBACK}> bd4's is the plan hope the dont shut down! lol Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/58229-top-rb20-club-do-you-have-over-260rwkw/page/47/#findComment-1903532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattSR Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 Roy, Great to see someone upping the ante with RB20's - Cant wait to see the results.. IMHO I would be leaning towards the 3037S if it is available, but either way it will be interesting. Cheers, Matt Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/58229-top-rb20-club-do-you-have-over-260rwkw/page/47/#findComment-1903568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl h Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 fwiw hks gt3037 = gt30r. i cant wait to get my engine back together, with proper compression (175psi vs 140psi) the turbo should come on harder and faster with better response. least i hope it does. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/58229-top-rb20-club-do-you-have-over-260rwkw/page/47/#findComment-1903999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolls Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 fwiw hks gt3037 = gt30r.i cant wait to get my engine back together, with proper compression (175psi vs 140psi) the turbo should come on harder and faster with better response. least i hope it does. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Without a doubt it'll be alot faster. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/58229-top-rb20-club-do-you-have-over-260rwkw/page/47/#findComment-1904352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32_GTS-4 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 You can get an 044 to fit internal - I've got 1 in my '33.Bit more stuffing around but possible. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> so i can get the 044 to be an intank pump? would it be just the same as installing the 019? the 019 was a fairly long pump...im just asking as everywhere ive researched everyone keeps saying its an external pump...so im just clarifying thanks chris Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/58229-top-rb20-club-do-you-have-over-260rwkw/page/47/#findComment-1920475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rb20powersilvia Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 guys, just a quick question, anyone fitted a rb25turbo gcg hiflow to there rb20? If not what would be a guesstemate on how much power it could make at the wheels? Thanks Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/58229-top-rb20-club-do-you-have-over-260rwkw/page/47/#findComment-1920563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rb20powersilvia Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 guys, just a quick question, anyone fitted a rb25turbo gcg hiflow to there rb20? If not what would be a guesstemate on how much power it could make at the wheels? Thanks Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/58229-top-rb20-club-do-you-have-over-260rwkw/page/47/#findComment-1920564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivosp Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 I have a q45 trotthle body right here. Its 85 mm on the inlet side and 83mm at the valve side. Was planning to use it on my rb20det after the head is flowed and a custom manifold is mounted, but maybe its a bit to big. Maybe trade it for a rb25 body orso. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/58229-top-rb20-club-do-you-have-over-260rwkw/page/47/#findComment-1920708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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