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I find you will only be beaten by an Auto if you don't know how to drive your manual :D

There was a reason the GTR didn't come out auto.. auto is horrible.

AHAHahahaah Amen.

I am not a fan of Autos AT ALL...

I like to slap 2nd and skate past my automatic rivals.

Unless its a worked auto with a stall converter and shift kitted, i dont like it.

To me, driving a manual car hard (on a track or twisties driving) i have more control over the car. I can use compression to slow down, i choose when it changes gears and when it doesnt etc etc.

I think it could be dangerous if for example, you were doing some hard driving in the mountains, and you put your foot down in an auto and it was unpredictable when it kicked down, if it kicked down too late and you were not expecting it to, the consequences could suck.

Also, gives you something to do whilst driving, makes it more interesting !

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I like to slap 2nd and skate past my automatic rivals.!

I think your rivals are already well ahead of you by then. The only reason you skate past them is that the run is over and they have backed off. Just think about the slightly taller diff ratio in an auto, when you are reaching for second they still have a bit to go in first. (So why would you have caught them by the 1st to second change)

I think it could be dangerous if for example, you were doing some hard driving in the mountains, and you put your foot down in an auto and it was unpredictable when it kicked down, if it kicked down too late and you were not expecting it to, the consequences could suck.

From this it sounds like there should be hundreds of autos written off on those twisty hill runs, but for some reason they are never there when I go up. I'd be happy to buy some of the wrecks and get the go faster pieces.

I find you will only be beaten by an Auto if you don't know how to drive your manual :D

There was a reason the GTR didn't come out auto.. auto is horrible.

Well apparently there were a few Auto GTR's.

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/sh...ead.php?t=61246

Also, when doing a hill climb you can use the HOLD button and it wont downshift unexpectedly.

i think we all need to agree to disagree! it seems like auto/manual is a personal pref. in two cars both equipped with the same mods, the auto may be faster in a drag depending on the manual drivers capability, however auto does suck for say track and the such.

I think your rivals are already well ahead of you by then. The only reason you skate past them is that the run is over and they have backed off. Just think about the slightly taller diff ratio in an auto, when you are reaching for second they still have a bit to go in first. (So why would you have caught them by the 1st to second change)

Sorry buddy, thats where you are wrong - and if you race to 2nd gear, you are a retard. It is an art form to launch a high powered manual car properly, any idiot can launch an auto. I am sorry if you are unfamiliar with wheel spin.

From this it sounds like there should be hundreds of autos written off on those twisty hill runs, but for some reason they are never there when I go up. I'd be happy to buy some of the wrecks and get the go faster pieces.

I never said that cars were written off because of this, I just said its a situation i would not like to be in. If you state that you would rather an automatic transmission for twisty runs/race tracks - you have obviously never experienced a manual.

Sorry buddy, thats where you are wrong - and if you race to 2nd gear, you are a retard.  It is an art form to launch a high powered manual car properly, any idiot can launch an auto.  I am sorry if you are unfamiliar with wheel spin.

I never said that cars were written off because of this, I just said its a situation i would not like to be in.  If you state that you would rather an automatic transmission for twisty runs/race tracks - you have obviously never experienced a manual.

FFS :bs!: :kick:

I think somebody is playing with their gear stick too much

Auto is good when you don't want to control the car. Just sit there and stand on the accelerator. Where's the driver skill? The great thing about auto is that the car shifts for you, and you don't have to be bothered with changing the gears.

Heck, why not just not get in the car, and attach a remote control to the car. That way, the auto car is almost fully automated, you just stand by the side of the road and hit the green button to make it go. You even get to save that 80KG of fat your skeleton hauls around, improving the power-to-weight ratio.

No way, manual is the way to go.

I think a lot depends on where u do most of your driving.

eg. daily driver, going to work in city everyday stop/start constantly

I' d rather an auto. Especially, with heavy clutch.

For everything else eg. me going from suburbs to outer suburbs to work

everyday - not too much slo stop start = manual. Especially, cos I love

hillclimbs and twisty stuff.

Out of 6 cars, 5 have been manual (although the 1st was a column shift :(

so I guess its clear where my preferences are. Bottom line I was so glad to

get rid of that boring auto and get back into manual.

Auto is good when you don't want to control the car.  Just sit there and stand on the accelerator.  Where's the driver skill?  The great thing about auto is that the car shifts for you, and you don't have to be bothered with changing the gears.

Heck, why not just not get in the car, and attach a remote control to the car.  That way, the auto car is almost fully automated, you just stand by the side of the road and hit the green button to make it go.  You even get to save that 80KG of fat your skeleton hauls around, improving the power-to-weight ratio.

No way, manual is the way to go.

Saying that a car is auto so you dont drive it etc is a load of crap, all you have different is a clutch.

i can guarantee you ive spent/spend more time doing stuff to my car then you do (mainly cos im unemployed hehe) so saying i might aswell have a remote control is an insult to me.

All i have to say for those people who think autos are shit.. Have you owned or had the chance to use one properly? NO, so dont talk about something u dont know. Simple as that. :(

Slide: Revving and dropping into gears in any auto besides a racing transmission will destroy it pretty quickly.

The truth is no one has said the auto is better than manual, because its not, but its nowhere near as bad as all the knowalls say it is.

Auto or manual, the passion for performance and skylines is still there, Regardless of transmission. :burnout:

Another benefit of manual:

Halfway between woop woop and nowhere at 3.am and the starter motor shits itself.

Manual driver pushes a few metres, pops clutch and keeps on driving.

Auto driver has no signal on mobile to call tow truck and gets eaten alive by wild cops waiting for the sun to rise.

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