Skylines for Targa 05

[Duncan]

sorry.....I forgot to mention your brilliant results on day 1, 13th is amazing considering

Sorry to hear you had some bad luck, I bet it was fun finding an rb20 head gasket in Hobart in the middle of the night.

Can't wait to beat your evo home next year

[williamsf1]

it is slowly coming out......

so I gather the white's GTR has monster brakes! and now we hear of factory under the table support with pistons etc.... sounds to me Nissan Jp seriously wanted to win what is now the best road car tar rally on the planet....

next year will we see a factory backed nismo team??? ok pipe dream maybe, but imagine richo back in a nissan product!!! :D:D

does anyone else have any info on the white white GTR

[Duncan]

hmm wouldn't that be nice....but it would snow at Targa before it happened.

Yeah brakes are free, as are shocks and springs, and ECU. Zorst has to be standard diameter and location but thats about it.....I understand the 34 N1 has forged pistons standard as well as the larger turbos, no Air Con, no wiper.

[sav man]

hmm wouldn't that be nice....but it would snow at Targa before it happened.

It snowed last year , i'll look forward to seeing the Nismo team next year :wassup:

[Bass Junky]

Exhaust must be no larger in diameter than the largest part of the stock system.

So if one part of the exhaust is 3.5 inches, the whole thing can be.

[t01-100]

www.cams.com.au/go/trregs are the proposed new rules for all CAMS Approved tarmac rallies. I wouldn't pay too much attention to these though as most of the steering committee that put them together have now walked away from what has been published!

[williamsf1]

well maybe if you talk about it long enough it will happen???? a bit like webber to williams! woo hooooooo

[t01-100]

forget talking, set the standard rules for all events as those for targa and pretty much everyone will be happy!

[Targa Tom]

sorry.....I forgot to mention your brilliant results on day 1, 13th is amazing considering

Sorry to hear you had some bad luck, I bet it was fun finding an rb20 head gasket in Hobart in the middle of the night.

Can't wait to beat your evo home next year

Our amazing crew drove to Ross, meeting one of the boys wives who had gone to my shed... and she actually grabbed a std oem gasket box from all my crap... (we couldnt get the car out of the expo till 10:30pm without penalty)

All this only to find that Dave Griffiths "Griffiths Automotive" had a gasket set waiting with a coffee when we arrived.

This is an unashamed plug for one of the nicest guys in the sport. X Jordan F1, X Silk-Cut Jag, and more.

If you have an import, try Dave... very switched on and a nice guy to boot.

13th on Day one was a reward for our crew... but you cant aim a top 30 car at the top 10 in Targa - it will end in tears - and it did.

We have proved a GTSt can win class and finish 24th ('03) Next time I am going to prove what I can do in an outright contender....

Just had a look at an VIII.5 RS today actually

Will keep my eye on site as a firesale coming soon.

[sav man]

www.cams.com.au/go/trregs are the proposed new rules for all CAMS Approved tarmac rallies.  I wouldn't pay too much attention to these though as most of the steering committee that put them together have now walked away from what has been published!

They are almost identical to the current Targa regs (only read the modern regs). Are you allowed to modify boost in the current regs?

[targa]

Exhaust must be no larger in diameter than the largest part of the stock system.

So if one part of the exhaust is 3.5 inches, the whole thing can be.

Not quite

the regs say " the dia at the first muffler or cat"

[Roy]

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13th on Day one was a reward for our crew... but you cant aim a top 30 car at the top 10 in Targa - it will end in tears - and it did.  

We have proved a GTSt can win class and finish 24th ('03)  Next time I am going to prove what I can do in an outright contender....

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LOL...good work in the old work horse:thumbsup:

Shame to see one of the few examples of a GTST being punted hard be put to bed, but the world keeps turning:)

And also my congrats to Jeff, tip top work, it seems finishing is a battle, finishing 7th is a huge feat:thumbsup:

[williamsf1]

I think you miss quoted me.... I was talking about talking up nismo coming in a facotry car!

forget talking, set the standard rules for all events as those for targa and pretty much everyone will be happy!

[gtstcruiser67]

Well done to all the teams flying the Skyline flag. Since you have ticked the targa box perhaps you show try another challenge. Mabey the Bathurst 24hr..

[t01-100]

I think you miss quoted me.... I was talking about talking up nismo coming in a facotry car!

Woops!

Nismo Z Tune isn't eligible though. 1500 need to be built being a post 2002 model.

[t01-100]

They are almost identical to the current Targa regs (only read the modern regs).  Are you allowed to modify boost in the current regs?

The differences are subtle, but sizeable.... For example an R32/R33/R34 N1 under the proposed rules must run standard ECU and Exh, no boost, no brake cooling ducts, no coilovers.... while a base model R32/R33/R34 can have all the current mod's allowed in LMS, but of course non none of the standard N1 good bits like coolers etc to ensure you don't need to rebuild the engine after each event and the only reason people buy or replicate N1s in the first place!

[Snowman]

Also - the talk of these regs going across to all events is stupid.

It means those of us with highly modified cars will no longer be able to compete in events such as the Dutton Rally's or GP Rally etc. We'll be limitted to club sprints and thats overated.

Its seems to be a Porsche driven initiative as they would be the biggest winners by far to these proposed changes.

[t01-100]

These regs are aimed at CAMS approved International and National tarmac rallies only such as Targa Tasmania, Rally Tasmania, Rallye Burnie, East Coast Targa and Mt Buller Sprint etc.

Touring Road events such as Dutton and Grand Prix Rally will not be affected.

Yes, Porsche are the big winners, but only because they produce the best car!

911 GT3/GT2/Turbo's could all be fairly accurately called race cars built for the road with little compromise.... a GT-R is a road car with large scale production compromise that is raced.

[Targa Tom]

Also - the talk of these regs going across to all events is stupid.

It means those of us with highly modified cars will no longer be able to compete in events such as the Dutton Rally's or GP Rally etc. We'll be limitted to club sprints and thats overated.  

Its seems to be a Porsche driven initiative as they would be the biggest winners by far to these proposed changes.

I think the idea of one set of regs whether the draft ones or a revised edition is the way to fly.

It means you can read the regs, select a car, then go racing with like minded people... when regs allow high level of mods, then cubic dollars wins.

In tarmac rally, they are trying to group cars relative to performance, and so far have done a good job.

There are many other issues that need to be addressed for the longevity of the sport... Timing for instance is a must! And the fact an event like TT will need 3000 CAMS accredited officials next year will surely see it turned into a clover leaf event AKA WRC & ARC.

The new draft suits STi & EVO's plus Corolla's as you can run one of Batesys prototypes.... I dont know if thats good or bad, but the sport must improve in its admnistration or punters will talk with their feet

TT

[Targa Tom]

These regs are aimed at CAMS approved International and National tarmac rallies only such as Targa Tasmania, Rally Tasmania, Rallye Burnie, East Coast Targa and Mt Buller Sprint etc.

Touring Road events such as Dutton and Grand Prix Rally will not be affected.

Yes, Porsche are the big winners, but only because they produce the best car!

911 GT3/GT2/Turbo's could all be fairly accurately called race cars built for the road with little compromise.... a GT-R is a road car with large scale production compromise that is raced.

For those who aren't sure already, this guy knows his tarmac rally stuff, and its great to have him in the forum.

Octagon as a shareholder driven organisation, have the right to derive profit from the performance of it operating arms.

In Targa Tasmania, they have a core product so good, that people will come to compete... they will even continue to compete many times despite the lack of procedures in place to guide the poor volunteers, despite a timing system that simply does not reflect the status (International) of the event.

The technology is available for timing, but we seem to be trialled with cheap homegrown alternatives... I would suggest most competitors would not flinch at cost sharing (similar to Dorian) if it meant timing issues were a rarity rather than a common occurrence.

If CAMS accreditation gives people in positions like CROWS(some are great) more an idea of their job description - great. (They are meant to be competitor reps - not event organiser defenders)

However, from my opinion, we are about to see the greatest Tarmac Rally on the planet slip into oblivion if the slide is not arrested. The contribution it makes to the Tassy economy will go and all those who have yet to compete will have the history books to look at...

To Octagon, I plead by way of this open letter.

Please deliver a timing system that works. Please keep a good relationship with local councils so the roads are not sealed prior to the event. Please show the competitors you are giving us something back for the increased revenue generated by increased event sponsors (the window band cost me personally $5000.00)

Please do not let Targa Tasmania go the way of it European ancestors.

Please help your band of volunteers by putting procedures in place to cover unusual situations.

Please ensure an efficient TRA is carried out. (It will drastically lower the risk of Natone type incidents). Please dont let TT slide.

These are but a few things, which will help ensure the projected date Calender will run its course for many years to come. Something we all wish. If t01-100, have the ear of people who count, please pass this on as contructive criticism...

Our team will be back, I hope, to accept the Challenge. And I suggest If you want a week of stress, emmotion, adrenelin, fun, and new friends all rolled into one. Do Targa Tasmania.... next year.

TT