nismo34 Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 BTW I have read that Speed article, but it really is just an opinion piece. I can't see how they're "PRO's". Sure they've probably driven a lot of cars and are more qualified to judge the cars than me, but aren't they just fellow enthusiasts driving cars and then writing about them? Look.. if it soo different league.. GTR as u say.. why they put into Supra and GTT in the contest?? and Supra came LAST?? isn't it suppose to be other way around ... if SUPRA was SOOOO good in GTR league!!! Anyways... i think SPEED guyz have good opinion.. because they have driven more cars and been though more than us i am sure if it.... And i am sure they not biased.... BTW.. power dont mean EVERYTHING.. is the overall proformance etc etc... Just look at RX-7... was the least power from the DYNO... and WIN.... who buyz car just for 0-100?? or 1/4 miles... If so just buy a drag car... :headspin: lol Anyways.. this post.. is not clear on what is needed.. Is to general.. just GTT vs Supra.. Does he want Stock vs Stock or Mods vs Mods.... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/73537-skyline-gt-t-r34-or-supra-rz/page/3/#findComment-1354291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dojobi Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Look.. if it soo different league.. GTR as u say.. why they put into Supra and GTT in the contest?? and Supra came LAST?? isn't it suppose to be other way around ... if SUPRA was SOOOO good in GTR league!!! Anyways... i think SPEED guyz have good opinion.. because they have driven more cars and been though more than us i am sure if it.... And i am sure they not biased.... BTW.. power dont mean EVERYTHING.. is the overall proformance etc etc... Just look at RX-7... was the least power from the DYNO... and WIN.... who buyz car just for 0-100?? or 1/4 miles... If so just buy a drag car... :headspin: lol I don't know why they put them in the same comparison. And yes' date=' it is a little strange to me that the Supra came last. I'm sure Speed aren't biased, but every other review I've ever read says the Supra handles really well and goes damn hard. It's almost always compared to the GTR. Anyway, lets just say that you'd prefer a GTT and I'd prefer a Supra Anyways.. this post.. is not clear on what is needed.. Is to general.. just GTT vs Supra.. Does he want Stock vs Stock or Mods vs Mods.... Yeah then it's a clear win for the Supra, but I was assuming they were stock. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/73537-skyline-gt-t-r34-or-supra-rz/page/3/#findComment-1354333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nismo34 Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 ?? sign.. read that article again plzz.. both modified in same way... SUPRA has more power... and Lasttttttt... GTT less powerful still better than supra.. win.. WHAT is soo hard to understand?? lol... SURPA Lost... lastttttt... If u don't think so... give letters bk to SPEED..(love to see u do it, and what comments from the PRO will give u hahaha )...!!!! Anyways.. i don't want to say more.. u have ur say.. i have mine... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/73537-skyline-gt-t-r34-or-supra-rz/page/3/#findComment-1354396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TracidTrax Posted May 16, 2005 Author Share Posted May 16, 2005 Does he want Stock vs Stock or Mods vs Mods.... either That Supra coming last in that magazine could have been due to lots of things such as supra not been tuned as much as others for circuit specs or could have been a shit driver not used to the supra's capabilities. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/73537-skyline-gt-t-r34-or-supra-rz/page/3/#findComment-1354399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munna Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 eitherThat Supra coming last in that magazine could have been due to lots of things such as supra not been tuned as much as others for circuit specs or could have been a shit driver not used to the supra's capabilities. All had the same mods Supra had big power and great speed in a straight line but just couldnt match the others when it came to handling ect Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/73537-skyline-gt-t-r34-or-supra-rz/page/3/#findComment-1354419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dojobi Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 ?? sign.. read that article again plzz.. both modified in same way...SUPRA has more power... and Lasttttttt... GTT less powerful still better than supra.. win.. WHAT is soo hard to understand?? lol... SURPA Lost... lastttttt... If u don't think so... give letters bk to SPEED..(love to see u do it, and what comments from the PRO will give u hahaha )...!!!! Anyways.. i don't want to say more.. u have ur say.. i have mine... There's nothing hard to understand. I don't know why you're still talking about this speed article. I know more power doesn't automatically mean it's better, and I didn't say that. I think I'll pass on writing a letter to speed just because I disagree with their review too. I'll just leave this discussion here as this really isn't going anywhere Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/73537-skyline-gt-t-r34-or-supra-rz/page/3/#findComment-1354430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kor'axis Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Hmmm i would get the TT supra.... actually no... the GTT.... no... the supra... no... the GTT... ahhhhhh Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/73537-skyline-gt-t-r34-or-supra-rz/page/3/#findComment-1354483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
noise Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 a few years ago my favourite jap sports cars were supras. I saw a black one with no wing, lowered with these huge magz and I was in love. Problems started when I kept seeing supras around that looked crap, HEAPS of them. My love affair cooled to just an appreciation. The supra is a nice car and I would love to own one. But over a much less common more modern design better driving car? SIF *moan GTT* Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/73537-skyline-gt-t-r34-or-supra-rz/page/3/#findComment-1354494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreg01 Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 how much would either of these cars set you back? on road, relativly stock? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/73537-skyline-gt-t-r34-or-supra-rz/page/3/#findComment-1354669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TracidTrax Posted May 16, 2005 Author Share Posted May 16, 2005 how much would either of these cars set you back? on road, relativly stock? well all depends on what year u want. Late model Supra's are expensive eg 97 Rz will set u back like $40-45k, 98 with vvti like $50k? GTT's range from like $28k-$40k also depending on year. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/73537-skyline-gt-t-r34-or-supra-rz/page/3/#findComment-1354779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
noise Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 4 door auto GT-T's go for < 25k Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/73537-skyline-gt-t-r34-or-supra-rz/page/3/#findComment-1355059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sambo33 Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 I'll always take the Nissan over the Toyota. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/73537-skyline-gt-t-r34-or-supra-rz/page/3/#findComment-1355324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOWNU Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 I'd go the GT-T purely on looks. Looks wayyyyyy better than a Supra, also, R34s are rare, compared to Supras. Performance wise Supra would win.....but that's what mods are for. I'd go the Skyline anyday. Oh yeah, this Nissan, Toyota stuff......LoL both are Japanese Manufacturers, kinda like comparing Holden and Ford. You can't say for example, "the skyline is better because its a Nissan" or vice versa. Same budget production methods. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/73537-skyline-gt-t-r34-or-supra-rz/page/3/#findComment-1355410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecl Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 when buyin my car my first choice was a supra as i've always wanted one since i first saw them however, with the money i spent on the r34, i wouldve only gotten a 93-94 supra which is a bit too old for my liking and i didnt want to spend $$ on problems i could avoid imo, supras are becoming very common.. however, thats not to say the r34 isnt fast becoming the same both are great cars.. supra will kill the GTT in terms of straight line and power output whilst the GTT is more of a cruiser/daily driver which still have enough go to have fun Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/73537-skyline-gt-t-r34-or-supra-rz/page/3/#findComment-1355451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrxhoon Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 well all depends on what year u want. Late model Supra's are expensive eg 97 Rz will set u back like $40-45k, 98 with vvti like $50k? GTT's range from like $28k-$40k also depending on year. 99-2000 rz supras sell for about 1.8 mil jpy in jap auctions , thats for a 6 sp manual with 50 k k's on the clock . 98-2000 gtt's sell for about .1.6 mil jpy for a 5 speed manual with the same k's . As you can see there is not much diff in the price of the 2 . Both have 206kw but supra has 451 n/m and gtt has only 333 n/m Supra has even heaps more torque that the 34 gtr (only 392 n/m ) Supra weighs 1510 kg and gtt only 1410 kg . I don't know wich is quicker in straight line but i dont think there is much in it , on the other hand the 34 gtr is much quicker than both . In May 98 the gtt ( release date ) was selling for 2.9 mil jpy and the rz 4.5 jpy ( in august 99 ) The gtt has a better resale value than the rz ( in japan ) By comparison in january 99 Gtr sold for 5 mil jpy and V-spec 5.6 mil . I dont know which car is better between the 2 , i think is a personal opinion as they are both good cars . I think i would buy a 33 gtr for about the same money as the supra . Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/73537-skyline-gt-t-r34-or-supra-rz/page/3/#findComment-1355471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cool Hand Luke Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 I think they aren't in the same comparison. For me i want thrills from a car. I like nissans a lot, but the supra holds more for me, and is the only toyota that does. One fact is that you can easily get over 650hp @ wheel with bolt on mods.. If anyone has seen a video of the walser supra beating a hyabusa on the highway, it had 2835 twins, cams, 70hp nitrous, and stock bottom end.Try that in a gtst, or even a gtr. Also the gearboxes and diff's are much stronger. I dont know how many cars i've seen run 9's @150mph with a stock box and just a diff center changed. Handling can be fixed quite easily, but if your comparing stock 2 stock then sure you probably have a point. But with properly setup suspension im sure the supra wouldn't handle that much worse if any than a GT-T, and there is no way that with mild mods a GT-T would stick with it in a straight line. Thats just my opinion based on my preferences, im sure others have different tastes. Also i think the 2JZ is the king of sound... very tough sounding engine Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/73537-skyline-gt-t-r34-or-supra-rz/page/3/#findComment-1355735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
saga Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 I think they aren't in the same comparison. For me i want thrills from a car. I like nissans a lot, but the supra holds more for me, and is the only toyota that does. One fact is that you can easily get over 650hp @ wheel with bolt on mods.. If anyone has seen a video of the walser supra beating a hyabusa on the highway, it had 2835 twins, cams, 70hp nitrous, and stock bottom end.Try that in a gtst, or even a gtr. Also the gearboxes and diff's are much stronger. I dont know how many cars i've seen run 9's @150mph with a stock box and just a diff center changed.Handling can be fixed quite easily, but if your comparing stock 2 stock then sure you probably have a point. But with properly setup suspension im sure the supra wouldn't handle that much worse if any than a GT-T, and there is no way that with mild mods a GT-T would stick with it in a straight line. Thats just my opinion based on my preferences, im sure others have different tastes. Also i think the 2JZ is the king of sound... very tough sounding engine agree there! in stock form, the gtt is a much nicer car to drive. but for modifying, the gtt is not in the same league as the supra. but again, for the money of a RZ, i would save alittle bit more to get a R34GTR Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/73537-skyline-gt-t-r34-or-supra-rz/page/3/#findComment-1355842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
slow13dude Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 Fools. Nissan AND Toyota are two of the world's great automotive manufacturers. It's hard to take you seriously if you're going to bag Toyotas because they aren't Nissans. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/73537-skyline-gt-t-r34-or-supra-rz/page/3/#findComment-1356294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sambo33 Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 im not bagging toyotas, im heavily nissan biased. Ive got no problems with toyotas and no doubts about their performance, im just very loyal to nissan motor co. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/73537-skyline-gt-t-r34-or-supra-rz/page/3/#findComment-1356565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boat Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 GTT 786 49.84% Supra 786 49.84% ho hum 5 0.32% Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/73537-skyline-gt-t-r34-or-supra-rz/page/3/#findComment-1356675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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