Nero Posted July 14, 2005 Author Share Posted July 14, 2005 What track were you driving around, what tyres were you using and what car mods have you got. There arent any Sydney tracks that shoudl bother a Skyliens std brakes with RB74s unless you have some serious power.All for using DS3000s but they are fairly expensive and if you are using them day to day they will squeal their asses off:( ...and of course the more hardcore the brake compund you begin to run the more aggressive on the rotor they typically are:( The track was Oran Park south circuit running RE55 tyres. Car is stock besides an exhaust running 14psi only running 233 atw. Best lap time was 52.5 i was happy with that considering that was my first attempt on a race track of any kind. Maybe i have other issues besides the pads? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/80324-brake-pads/page/2/#findComment-1464337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 R32 ir R33? Either way i would have thought the brakes should have lived...was this the UAS day? I suppose its the old question, was the pedal firm but the car refuse to stop, no feel in the pedal but still slowed, or was it utter chaos:) Before spending a fortune just try the old pads and fluid. A brake guy down in Vic made comment to me last year that at club days he thinks too many ppl get on the brakes and coast for a little while before really jumping on them. This just acts to heat them up whilst your not really pulling the car up. You want to be on the brake pedal for as short a time frame as possible...and as Sydneykid commented the other day increasing corner speed is another way to save your brakes:) Gut feeling says though if you get the basic hardware working for you, if its still not doing the job then consider a means to get them running cooler. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/80324-brake-pads/page/2/#findComment-1464431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunMetalR33 Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 I have put RB47's on the fronts this weekend just pased. So far ZERO squeaking, but I have not done any hard braking yet as I am still beding them in... Its good to have a short brake pedal again, my old pads has less than nothing left in them Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/80324-brake-pads/page/2/#findComment-1469771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
B0oStEr Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 I have put RB47's on the fronts this weekend just pased. So far ZERO squeaking, but I have not done any hard braking yet as I am still beding them in... Its good to have a short brake pedal again, my old pads has less than nothing left in them I just bought a pair of RB74 pads from the Racebrakes stand at the Mingara show and shine. The guy on the stand said that to bed them in do 8-10 100-30kph heavy applications or until the smoke pours off them then drive round using them normally till they cool down. He said this is to bring the resins in the pad to the surface so it can coat the disc. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/80324-brake-pads/page/2/#findComment-1474664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunMetalR33 Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 That method of bedding them in might work if you have perfectly smooth disks. I would think that if you had some very light groves then this heavy braking could create hot spots on the pad which could spread??? I dont see how smoke coming for brand new pads could be good for them. I just bought a pair of RB74 pads from the Racebrakes stand at the Mingara show and shine. The guy on the stand said that to bed them in do 8-10 100-30kph heavy applications or until the smoke pours off them then drive round using them normally till they cool down. He said this is to bring the resins in the pad to the surface so it can coat the disc. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/80324-brake-pads/page/2/#findComment-1474681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abo Bob Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 I would have thought that RACEBRAKES would know about brakes. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/80324-brake-pads/page/2/#findComment-1474824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunMetalR33 Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 yea I guess, but it could have been anyone maning the stand... I would have thought that RACEBRAKES would know about brakes. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/80324-brake-pads/page/2/#findComment-1474849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
petemillis Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 When people are buying brakes for racing, would they spend a hundred miles bedding them in? I suppose someone racing might not have scored brake discs, in which case there wouldn't be the same need to bed in to get the pads to operate properly. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/80324-brake-pads/page/2/#findComment-1474932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
djr81 Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 I just bought a pair of RB74 pads from the Racebrakes stand at the Mingara show and shine. The guy on the stand said that to bed them in do 8-10 100-30kph heavy applications or until the smoke pours off them then drive round using them normally till they cool down. He said this is to bring the resins in the pad to the surface so it can coat the disc. Hmmm, was there any evidence of him using recreation drugs? Bedding in the pads entails getting them nice and hot, but not to the point of them smoking! Also, never park a car up with hot brakes - it is a recipe for warping the discs. Atleast the advice about driving around arfterwards is good. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/80324-brake-pads/page/2/#findComment-1474941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTRgeoff Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 http://www.dba.com.au/tech/major_considerations.asp Just looking for some other stuff as well. I use 6 stops from 100 - 40 and then drive a while without stopping completely. I think the smoke part is overkill but the rest is good. As for 'grooves' in the disc face, don't sweat it. The pad will quickly conform, especially if you run slots. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/80324-brake-pads/page/2/#findComment-1474984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 smoke is fine when bedding new pads in. They ship with a resin coating that has to be burned off before they work properly, so smoke or at least a really bad smell is normal Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/80324-brake-pads/page/2/#findComment-1475249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunMetalR33 Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Hmmm maybe I need to change my approach for breaking them in. So far I have been doing long breaking periods with with light load, I guess like ridding the breaks. So now I should do 5 x 100 to 40 hard breaks then cruz around while they cool off? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/80324-brake-pads/page/2/#findComment-1475854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTRgeoff Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 It always works for me and I always get the brake smell with RB74's Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/80324-brake-pads/page/2/#findComment-1475978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
B0oStEr Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 I had a bit of a conversation with him and he knew his brakes. This method of bedding them in was for rb74s, not necessarily other pads. Also he told me this knowing I had freshly machined discs so I don't know if he would have suggested something different if the discs were grooved. My guess is he would have told me to get them machined. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/80324-brake-pads/page/2/#findComment-1476122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTRgeoff Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 Some more brake stuff, just for info. http://www.precisionbrakescompany.com/why-...big-brakes.html Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/80324-brake-pads/page/2/#findComment-1477354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yap Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 Did anyone try winmax sports? it Rated at 0-500 degrees celcius, Winmax Sports pad is a very good street pad, and track use pad. i still got few set on hand..(suit R33gtst and R34 gtt) $150front pad $140rear pad Wroth to try!~ Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/80324-brake-pads/page/2/#findComment-1478256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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